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Viper

    1st
    in other words i'm retarded

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    webLIDL

      2nd im also retarded

      Sir Nicolas Jackson

        3rd.
        Finally.

        almudron is dogshit

          4th.
          A little less retarded.

          Tar-Calion

            5th, first post ever lol

            quit dota with yeeran

              I feel like she really reserved a buff, maybe new patch wants her to become support?
              Personal suggestion: Adds talents like +Critical or +2 ways for Powershot(like Mirana Lv.25) and more damage.

              i doubt i'll ever know

                7th MegaBrain

                white boy summer

                  would be good if it was +5% amp/20 dmg at 10, 12%resist/ +20 powershot dmg at 20 and shackles duration instead of range

                  THOTPaTroL

                    Maybe an aghs rework on multi,(where you can cast multiple hero's) or AOE.. or make her ulti to proc crit....or just remode her like they did with void...

                    CCNC

                      9th now I can rest in peace

                      Noodle ヌードル

                        Well, she destroys MK really hard, which is the most annoying early-mid game hero now. Still one of the best hero to get solo pick offs too once she got into position (It's really hard to burst her single handedly). Her talent tree is so bad though, I agreed.

                        apes strong together

                          It think that outside of a bigger chest, the best buff would be to remove, or at least reduce the attack damage reduction of her ultimate and make her less reliable on the Scepter. Scepter is about as core on WR as it is on Mirana, but Mirana is at least capable of getting actual solo kills without Scepter, unlike WR. Once again however, the

                          Hopeless

                            her talents are shit and the game moves too quickly now for her to come online and be a scary presence.

                            She still needs to get that whole aghs - damage (crit or mael) - blink itemization going to be really strong, and by the time she does that its not that meaningful.

                            She needs talents that can somewhat take the place of one of those items. A crit talent would be good.

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                            Caramel

                              they must rework arc warden - his clone MUST be same color (manta style, phantom lancer, chaos knight, meepo, naga - all of them have more clones and its really hard to find out which is enemy hero. ) Arc has one clone almost every minute...
                              - next thing is his 25 talent with more sparks dmg - this is a joke! In late game all enemies have bkb, tons of hp etc. 100 magic dmg won't help.
                              - 10% of cooldown - really? 4 seconds less on your ultimate?
                              -he can't heal himself
                              - can't escape
                              - all his spells you can evade just by using 1% of your brain. His flux is useles against clones heroes, wraight is weak against more tanky ones (spent all mana on doom in early game- did nothing to him), magnetic field weak against melee and ranged who will make one step closer and enter this field...
                              His ultimate - long cooldown, diferent colours, so enemies don't need to use dust, they know which is real; can't heal real Zet, meh, just no...
                              Just a bigger creep

                              Hopeless

                                ^ The fuck are you talking about?

                                gee you abandoned a game as arc warden and randomly decide to bitch about it here?

                                kL

                                  froggo pls buff qop

                                  not thp

                                    ^lmao the abandon. ur such a stalker dude rofl

                                    The Robot Devil

                                      TL;DR. YES.

                                      HaffyTaffy

                                        She could potentially go for a hybrid build, where she transitions from a Veil and Blink, though the Blink may be optional here, into a Maelstrom, which synergizes well with the Veil. Afterwards, she could go back into the more physical damage focused build. Once again however, the

                                        attila

                                          windranger needs a buff but so do arc and puck
                                          especially arc i mean 38% winrate for a hero who doesn't actually require team coordination is so bad

                                          our bad

                                            they can buff her with making her b**bs bigger XD
                                            but yes I think wind ranger and sven both need buff and a better talent tree

                                            Scorpio

                                              Veil Blink mjoll octarine radiance shivas caster WR anyone?

                                              dogbert'st

                                                see me in the club with it tatted on my chest

                                                Skim

                                                  @baron haffy ducreux

                                                  thanks, accidentally deleted it when I inserted a bunch of images :<

                                                  Alien Righteousness

                                                    She's so bad she's not even fun to play anymore, even in casual settings. Like you said, there is basically never a game where some other hero can't do her job but much more reliably.

                                                    She is bad at farming, but I think that keeps her balanced. Not every core needs to be a farm machine. She should rely on early game aggression and pushing her advantage. I liked the solution of making her less Agh's dependent.

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                                                    Stone Cold Steve Austin

                                                      @HosseiN__Kaka
                                                      Bigger boobs buff, on an archer hero? Nah, make her smaller or flat and I call that a buff.

                                                      attila

                                                        make her muscly as fuck that's what I'd call buff

                                                        Il Separatio

                                                          In spanish it is persona "NO" grata :3

                                                          Ath[e]isT

                                                            this is funny I remember a phase in dota 1 days when people said the exact same thing about windranger being jack of all trades master of none

                                                            Cheap Laugh Guy

                                                              Not even a mention on the windrun being dispellable

                                                              Her talents are good
                                                              The only thing that needs buff is Windrun, and Focus Fire's CD.

                                                              Do you people even play WR?

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                                                              Brünk Hüll

                                                                There are lots of possibilities to upgrade a lot of things about WR via talent tree (a Q that doesn't need to latch or hits extra targets etc), but those are all kind of side problems. Nitpicks.

                                                                I think the second biggest problem with the hero lies in powershot. I play WR offlane and almost never have any use for powershot because it's too annoying to spend that much mana to only do 90 dmg. It might travel far but it is soooo situational that it's far more useful to pump points into shackleshot and wait for the perfect moment to ult. It would be better if it skipped creeps altogether. Worse for farming, sure, but that leads into my next point.

                                                                The biggest problem with WR is that she is an INT hero. It works horribly into her ultimate, and most classic builds involve damage items like crit stick and mjolnir. It's bad enough that she needs blink and aghs to be effective, but she is hindered even further by the fact that any other items she might go for damage wise have to be straight damage, not agility based, to be efficient. I know that means a lot of tweaking to damage, mana costs, etc would have to happen, but seeing as her primary source of damage is right clicks, the best method I see of bringing her back is to, well, have the carpet match the drapes. Wish I could find a better way of saying that...that was foul...

                                                                Brünk Hüll

                                                                  Oh, I know dagon is sometimes picked up on her, but that's kind of really situational and she doesn't naturally have the mana pool to make that a staple build. I'm more than willing to lose that build in favor of making her an AGI hero.

                                                                  Elcarim

                                                                    33rd.

                                                                    Which means I'm slow...

                                                                    salsa/

                                                                      Well, my main problem with windranger is that, while being squishy, she has an amazing escape early on, which unfortunately doesn't translate well to late game, an early MKB is all you need to screw up any plans made. If compared to other escape spells, windrun really falls flat on the late game, if we look at Necro's new escape skill, while making him extra vulnerable to magic attacks, leaves him invulnerable against physical attacks even against a MKB, and Necro is really tanky, when compared to a hero as squishy as WR.

                                                                      Going back to the talent tree, I never understood why some heroes got HUGE lvl 25 talents while others got crap, granted some of the lvl 25 talents were necessary (i.e. Veno's Ward buff), but Mirana's +2 arrows was uncalled for, she was doing just fine with only one arrow.

                                                                      I was hoping for something a bit less underwhelming, I remember when Diretide was up, and WR had a shackleshot that could latch to 5 targets at once, having +2 targets that could be latched on at level 25 would be a lot better, it would penalize bad positioning and could be a potential initiator on the late game, or maybe having the option to reduce all incoming physical damage by 100% when Windrun is active, making it possible to a core WR to be present in the team fight without running the risk of getting one shotted.

                                                                      Plus, the scepter should be dropped completely, her ultimate on level 6 is good, but a 50% penalty is just too much when it comes to a hero that doesn't benefit from being a dex hero. a 30%/15%/0% would be enough to see her having a higher winrate, and moving the scepter to a skill that doesn't scale well to the late game (either windrun or powershot).

                                                                      Windranger is one of those heroes that are very hard to balance, it'll always be either broken or irrelevant, but we've seen heroes rise from the ashes before, morphling is a hero that, while not being the beast he was back in 2012, is still a force to be reckoned with.

                                                                      ★ ☆ ★ Z E K K E N ★ ☆ ★

                                                                        Wind doesn't need much of a buff, just different talents. People need to play more to her strengths as a hero. The new map is extremely good for her due to the lanes been shrunk down in size which allows for much easier shackles on heroes, as well as there are just more trees spread throughout the map. She can pick off almost any hero in the game once you have blink aghs.

                                                                        Unfortunately her talents are really bad. They are trying to make her some sort of caster which sure sounds nice but doesn't actually work. Because that's not what she does. I only end up taking the regen/int/amp/cd due to it allowing her to push out waves faster, due to if you are taking damage as her there is something wrong. Attack range is pretty useless on her because of focus fires cast range.

                                                                        Talents which she could use: 7 armor instead of magic resistance. 150 extra shackle range instead of 100 attack range. No powershot damage reduction instead of powershot cooldown.

                                                                        However if there were to be changes for her, they would mainly need to be fairly minor.

                                                                        Some examples: +4 base damage, +1 base armor, -10 powershot mana cost, +5 base movement speed, or +0.25 unlatched shackleshot stun duration. A crazy one would be shackleshot does 25/50/75/100 damage.

                                                                        She really doesn't need much to be good, just needs people to play her much better.

                                                                        @end Arc Warden is the best hero in Dota. So incredibly broken. Unfortunately nobody knows how to play him properly, so when he's random it's normally an auto loss.

                                                                        @brockhall If she was an agi hero she would be a lot worse. There isn't a single agi item which you would build on her if she was agi. Butterfly is useless and Eblade is terrible on her as well. With int you have access to bloodthorn and Scythe for damage which provides much more use for the hero. Her being AGI does no benefit to her, INT is just much better. Also if you build Dagon on her, you should really not be playing WR. The items which you should be building are aghs, blink, maelstorm(not mjollnir), mkb, daed, sheep, bloodthorn, skadi, satanic, bkb, or linkens.

                                                                        Wind really just doesn't get the respect she needs in terms of playing the hero. She seems really simple to play but has a very high skill gap.

                                                                        ThunderWarrior

                                                                          I feel the hero needs a full rework. She is sort of useless at this point. She can't farm, deal reliable magic damage, unreliable even though decent lock and the ult... I can't even comment on how useless it is. While you are busy targeting and melting 1 guy, you might get ganked on with the other 4. The escape/survivability spell she has is really good but falls off very hard in late game because enemies get hex, abyssal etc.

                                                                          Saloma hellraiser

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                                                                            Reprobate

                                                                              The talent tree of windranger is invented by a retard. Just throw whatever seems useful into that tree that's it.
                                                                              I love playing windranger with disable and decent magic damage on early game, but fuck it. She is squishy and her mana tank is depleted easily.
                                                                              I can totally see why her pick rate is declining. Believe me they won't buff windranger but they will nerf ember which this article brought into comparison, that's exactly how retarded the developer is.

                                                                              Контроль Паладин

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                                                                                ImagineDodong

                                                                                  Probably change her talent tree I mean what really is the purpose and what direction is her talent tree going?

                                                                                  Von Darkmoor

                                                                                    No shes perfectly balanced the way she is previosly she was overpowerd as fuck and i can understand previous FOTM f'gs crying now over her being bad but in all honesty shes is pretty decent as she is.

                                                                                    But again WR FOTM SPAMMERS will cry themself everyday shes balanced until she is OP again.

                                                                                    Personly i think she could get the "6.58
                                                                                    Focus Fire icon.png Focus Fire​ no longer has a 10 attacks limit."
                                                                                    Back a other way to do it is to simply minimize the shackle latch aoe to make it skill required instead of retard easy.

                                                                                    But i would prefer if they did some radical rework similar to how they changed Naix's bkb ultimate, 40% slow or Undying from int to str in 6.58 and the how they removed the raise dead making it impossible to jungle the same way as you used to.

                                                                                    Classic

                                                                                      I think to play WR now is a suport .. with tranquil boots .. silent item .. and dager ..

                                                                                      Aniki

                                                                                        HER BEWBS literally need a buff

                                                                                        Brünk Hüll

                                                                                          @Kubera

                                                                                          I don't think you understood the point I was making. WR as she currently stands doesn't do much magic damage inherently. Her ult does physical dmg, her powershot is underwhelming magic dmg, and shackeshot has negligible damage. Buying intelligence items would still be useful on her(ish), but you could open more options for right click damage items like Manta and Hurricane Pike to have more impact. Ring of Aquila would also be far more impactful. You could (and should) still buy Maelstrom (I meant maelstrom), blink, aghs, skadi, and any straight damage items. In fact, the only items you suggested that are primarily int items are bloodthorn and sythe, and that's definitely luxury item territory. Every other item you mentioned would provide the same benefits to her as it currently does, as they are all even increases to all attributes.

                                                                                          And yeah, if you are auto building dagon, you are wrong. It's a cheese strat that only works in stupid situations.

                                                                                          Ferioness

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                                                                                            Life

                                                                                              She's need buff emergency

                                                                                              TigerUppercut

                                                                                                how about a buff to arc warden, he did not need to be nerfed like he was at all.

                                                                                                enb

                                                                                                  what about furion ? never played in pro matches and sucks in pubs