I'm actually quite surprised that 7.20 didn't have some crazy restructure of his W to be "sucks AS and gives it to Razor." That might actually make him viable if they give him a stat gain or base damage buff.
Oh, and also give him a real choice for Level 15 talents, 4% MS is hot garbage.
I see you're building euls every game. How do you use his euls, suck then euls the sucker?
i play him as offlaner and safelaner vs slark in 7.20 pretty dang now you can flash farm with the e change
razor is best played as mid/offlane, it kinda sucks as carry
Euls is good as you can cancel tp, chase, and also 2nd and euls a carry up to suck his damage
Usually i go stat items into hood into phase into euls into sny/agha/hurricane/bkb/etc
You should maxing his 3rd instead 1st because it give him everything, mobility, harrast, flash farm
But i still weak tho
you almost alwayls should max first
The standard build should be:
2 1 2 1 1 4 1 3 3 3 talent at lvl 10(agi) 3 4 2 2
I saw the dotabuff before, I am a big razor fan so I'm keen to try it. I will see if I get an opportunity to uncork it with your build.
@ X.
What are your starting items with Razor (I presume WBs are still worth the stats even after 7.20e)?
you almost alwayls should max first
The standard build should be:
2 1 2 1 1 4 1 3 3 3 talent at lvl 10(agi) 3 4 2 2
No, you imbecile. His 3rd give 120 area damage every 3 scd and 16 bonus ms for FREE. Im sound like communist, but no things better than free stuff
You have a hard lane, feed, go level 7, stack jungle and go out with holy locket and drums at minute 16. The good things, u can even amplify with yasha kaya, radiance, aghanim or go mjolnir for total atk speed. Trust me, i already tried it
Fact 1: if you max 3rd early on, you will mess up the lane if your 3rd keeps proc
Fact 2: Holy Locket on Razor? really?
Fact 3: There are better carries to afk farm if you wanna go jungle, and razor is not one of them
Fact 4: Razor 1st is one of the best spells of the game, it has high damage a slow and just 125 mana cost, why would you not max it
Usually my mid starting build would be two circlet and two slippers
I usually opt for getting two wraith band before boots and getting a wand or smth after that
I would then go euls/hood and get phase after one of those items
after that i would get euls(if i got hood) or sny
Disassemble it to make heaven halberd and manta/agha/bkb
the rest is up to you
I’m also a Razor spammer and am about to offer my insight when I realize my own win rate with him does not generate any confidence.
Hence I think I will shut up.
But Whilst Razor can be stronk in the right hands I think there are more powerful and easier carries to spam this current patch.
Regards
Gecko
razer is garbage and niche like drow
he doesnt counter some heroes with his rework now like he used to
still lacks a lot of farm, i go treads on him because it's cheaper
he's much better than before tho
Here is an example of one my successful razor games
Match id: 4271723973
Question how would you play him against a 7k AM? I'm thinking of waiting for him to spellshield or just succ another enemy's damage and go ham on their team/am instead.
Nah, razor just sucks vs am, it does okay vs am in lane i guess but thats it
@X
Can i just say thanks for this post btw. I tried the build in a few pub games this weekend (obviously not definitive) but thought it made Razor feel a bit more relevant compared to other builds.
I actually dont mind the AM pick as before lvl 6 you constantly leash him to make him choose to lose the damage OR give you it to control the lane and with the build above you can do reasonable damage with your q and chase them down with the slow. Basically do what the offlane is meant to do and be a pain in the enemies carries backside.
As the game progresses mid-game people either target you (better than our carry) and you euls yourself to buy time and steal that damage or forget to and your eye of the storm has time to let rip.
why were people not getting euls before? seems like it was even better pre movement speed changes (flat ms increase gets multiplied by phase, sny and passive)
He's pretty decent as an offlane. He's a lackluster mid imo. I usually start with some basic items, then build into wraith band, phase, get a holy locket and then build into hood or vanguard depending on the enemies (magic vs phsical). The reasoning for the locket is that it amplifies Regen so you're gonna build pipe, crimson guard, bkb, and then aghs, (throw a euls in there and you're set). You will have like 40 Regen and lots of magic resist and physical resist. You can literally not be killed if you play him right.
Skill build is 1-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-1-1-1-4-2-2 while getting the agi talent and static drain talent on to of armor. Also lvl 25 I go for unstable current DMG since you're a tank mofo and your passive actually works even if you self euls.
I had a pa jump on me and tickle me while I drained her dmg and she took 350 magic dmg every 3 seconds
Fact 1: if you max 3rd early on, you will mess up the lane if your 3rd keeps proc
Fact 2: Holy Locket on Razor? really?
Fact 3: There are better carries to afk farm if you wanna go jungle, and razor is not one of them
Fact 4: Razor 1st is one of the best spells of the game, it has high damage a slow and just 125 mana cost, why would you not max it
Trying so hard to be smart but still a fool. Next pls
Maybe the magic build would work, but it requires more items to be useful, building hood into phase and euls gives you good fighting ability, and usually i would pick razor vs heroes like pa to drain their damage
if i was going to use magic, i would rather use other heroes that can offer more magic damage with less items(just does not walk as fast)
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Holy Locket offers too little for its price. I think Huskar and Timber are the only cores who can fully utilize the item and make it worthwhile.
Buying a healing/regen boosting item for a hero with no healing or regen abilities or items...
Buying a 2650 gold locket for pipe, so that you can waste an item slot for an extra 2hp regen from your pipe...
I know 4k is shit and all, but I didn't think even you guys could be this bad at theorycrafting and itemization. Even a perseverance provides as much regen for Razor as a locket
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3rd skill changes made him farm faster, and now his 1st has a decent slow.
Pretty underrated so far, but im winning games with him in the 7k+bracket
When will pubs start to spam this hero?