20 games is what i consider a small sample size. for someone who is already close to his true rating, random variability will affect games ALOT. and of course how you perform results in wins or losses. maybe your wins are indeed you compensating for your shadowpooled teammates. but then you losing is just obviously because you climbed and are no longer good enough to compensate for your teammates weaknesses.
u shhould get used to it. because the higehr u climb, its just gonna get worse and u constantly have to carry ppl worse than you.
what you are implying is forced 50% matchmaking gives u worse odds by giving you worse teammates.
what i'm saying is you are just no longer good enough to win by your own individual skill after you've possibly climbed too high. but fair matchmaking. i.e., the ppl u play with are same skill as you, but your psychological bias is affecting your perception of them. thinking your 'punished' is just plain fucking wrong. lol
20 games is what i consider a small sample size. for someone who is already close to his true rating, random variability will affect games ALOT. and of course how you perform results in wins or losses. maybe your wins are indeed you compensating for your shadowpooled teammates. but then you losing is just obviously because you climbed and are no longer good enough to compensate for your teammates weaknesses.
u shhould get used to it. because the higehr u climb, its just gonna get worse and u constantly have to carry ppl worse than you.
20 games?
how about 2000 games that im playing in 4k averages? does that suit your 10 iq tastes?
of course, you work your ass off for your wins, but your losses are insta-losses. typical of how ppl reconstruct their memory of events.
which just proves my point
5% games defwins
50% everyone is fucking awful and you need to try your hardest to have a CHANCE to win (not to be mixed with winning!)
45% def losses
uhh my point is your memory is fucked up and u shouldnt trust it.
this whole thread is documenting <20 games am i right?
so unless u actually went trough all your 2000 games to assess which ones were "unwinnable" and which ones were "free wins". what you're whining about is as good as random variability.
They are the group with the largest number of people that you could say are, 1) Extremely dedicated and 2) Have played a high number of games.
They have obviously played a shitton of games and got fairly good at the game. They are the ppl who treat the game a little more serious than the rest. That's where fatigue would start to be very noticeable given high number of games. It's also where there begins an interesting interaction between high dedication and stagnation (for the majority of 4ks who cannot improve into higher brackets).
Feelings of Loss of control over their games @ 50% win rate, Combined with perceived superior knowledge and expertise in the game due to high number of games played and high dedication.
Feelings of hatred towards teammates develop over time. Core-only syndrome develops.
inadaptability starts to set in along with a general feeling of fatigue.
Communication problems start to develop. Lack of trust with respect to teammates causes an unhealthy level of self importance and dunning Kruger in games.
i like how you're trying to correlate iq with mmr, implying that your higher mmr than me means u have more iq than me. lol implying that u think iq = intelligence as well.
lol
take a break. your tilt is obvious, and ur mind is obviously fucked and ur losing games because of it.
ppl with 4k toxicitiy tend to have more games than mmr. but they cant stop playin this game. the behaviours you tend to see are clearly exhibited in this thread.
i like how you're trying to correlate iq with mmr, implying that your higher mmr than me means u have more iq than me. lol implying that u think iq = intelligence as well.
lol
take a break. your tilt is obvious, and ur mind is obviously fucked and ur losing games because of it.
i don't actually know why do i have still hope in you that you can understand anything
it's either sad or funny how you think that you got everything thought out even though you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about
if anything you said held any importance you wouldn't be 1k rofl
arin i never had any problems with u but as a person that's not u and isnt a spunki or a meme, im telling u; you got obvious issues and dont take it as an insult iim just implying this many games in around the same mmr range clears out that it couldnt be ur m8s since every game it's gonna be different ppl rarely the same guys. my rl friend got from 3.7 to 5.6 in 2 months u think his games were heaven and urs only has retarded ppl? it's u dude ffs u acutally implied ur problems as memes or stuff like i know this "insert ur self aware problem" thing but oh well imma blame the situations anyway. i've literally seen u post these !!
ye ye guys my team is holding contests in doing the largest amount of stupid shit in shortest amount of time to erase any kinds of progress im making towards victory, or just straight feeding/jungling and being afk since beginning for whatever reason
but apparently i'm the one who's in the wrong after all! maybe i should just feed and instalock junglers too maybe im going to win more games like that and solve my obvious issues!
or just straight feeding/jungling and being afk since beginning for whatever reason
this is more opinion than anything.
no one is saying you're in the wrong. but it's a clear mindset issue here. a 5,6k may not share the same hatred towards what you're describing, because they could possibly see other solutions in a game. instead what you're doing is wasting energy looking at the stupid shit your teammates are doing. this causes you to lose objectivity. it's plain and simple.
sorry guys i climbed too much im not being able to compensate for my jungler while playing against triple lane mid while an usual offlaner dies on safelane on a single hero that should have virtually 0 ways to kill him
well maybe if you accepted that you are where you are, you wouldnt be so mad at having 50% winrate (actually u had 27/47 winrate recently), and some random losses wouldnt get u so worked up.
you should only be upset if you a)think you are much better than your bracket (so u are not where u belong) b) u have sub 50 winrate, became worse, and lost like 1000 mmr like some of the ppl here have.
srsly dont ask others for this type of help ppl... u gonna hear either u suck or u got this prpblem both ways u gonna react defensively thus not getting any result but more meaningless flaming conversations. u wanna "git gud" quit ur current beliefs. that u might think it's impossible to climb. that ppl are all shit in ur team. dont expect others to show their good side from the start.
let me tell u smth about ppl. in a random game at the start, 80% of ppl are neutral to other players, the other 20 are either real nice ppl who try to communicate, annoying ppl who keep talking about every small thing, and flamers from start ppl like "oh shit we got a russian in our team gg" or feeders bc they didnt get the role they wanted. let's put aside those min1 feeders since this is a rarer case let's look at the normal scenarios. ppl are either already positive or neutral. what u wanna do is keep a positive player positive, and turn neutrals also adaptable to ur ideas by ur own positive play. dont be an annoying fuck who congrats ppl for every small thing like a baby. but make ppl feel good. starting is if u got a jungler who is contesting ur rune at start, leave the rune and go block. this makes him subconsciously think u r a nice guy a 100 gold prize vs a guy who is going to listen to u later on?? then there's having well played on chat wheel and spamming it for every nice move. altho this doesnt feel like much but this simple thing can make ppl listen to u l8er. i myself turned feeders into team coordinators with some simple methods.
but first, u gotta be fuckin positive urself. u dont gotta be sunshine and rainbow, just want to win. be willing to sacrifice ur farm for a gank to help ur m8. be willing to give up runes, not ping ppl for their mistakes. NEVER ping ppl when they do smth wrong. never say u did this wrong either say nothing or say do this next time (not dont do thus next time, but do the other thing next time)
@friendly player ok this is my friend
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/303680896 he went to 5.6 then back and forth and now is around 5.4 i think. he had ember and invo winstreaks i remember AND he is toxic af. i definitely believe he couldve been 6k by now if not bc of toxicity. he has arin's issue of blaming teammates but he doesnt lose hope and give up in any game he tryhards the shit out of games even if he's triggered and flaming at the same time. unlike arin who gets triggered ezly first, then triggers others, then gives up on the game putting no active effort on solo comebacks.
I like to ping like 9430493043 times if some1 fucks up and also rage into micro saying what do I think about them, their lives, their families and their dota skills
but agn arin admits his mistakes and knows where his wrong but in the heat of the moment cant control it unlike my friend he never accepts that "russians" dont have i cant play dota right syndrom
like if u actually understand how much impact that X ping has on the game and still do it, u got severe problems and this is just a game u are doing the same thing in ur real life and it's gonna give u god awful results l8er on...
not talking about X pings generally being a partially nrgative person meaning u r waiting for smth bad to happen sk u start focusing on it and spread negativity and shit all over everyone. while if smth nice and good happens u take it for granted or "oh finally smth bice happened oh well
feels good being the cause of my loss for first time in 20 games
i'd be 6 slotted if i were playing ta against myself by the time she finished pike but my account is cursed so obviously other people can perform far worse than me and still climb to 5k
understandable have a good day sirs im going to bed after 26 hours of awakeness
Matchmaking doesnt care if you lost 11 games out of 12 and it doesnt care if you gained 600 mmr in 3 days. MM cannot know that Vlad from ukraine that just got matched with you lost his last 9 games, that he is tilted as fuck and he is about to pick axe and ruin your game.
All what matters for MM are setting you chosen yourself (language and server). Based on those settings, MM tries to find you teammates with similiar or same MMR and behaviour score. There is no OTHER variables included in algorythm of MM. You get it? No conspiracy behind it.
Therefore, when you load up the game you have chance of winning same as chance of lossing. Period.
These Screenshoots prove nothing except you are extremly delusional and passively aggressive person that is not capable of realising that there is no even slight chance of proving he is right.
of course, you work your ass off for your wins, but your losses are insta-losses. typical of how ppl reconstruct their memory of events.
games are not considered insta losses just because you gave up. lol
20 games is what i consider a small sample size. for someone who is already close to his true rating, random variability will affect games ALOT. and of course how you perform results in wins or losses. maybe your wins are indeed you compensating for your shadowpooled teammates. but then you losing is just obviously because you climbed and are no longer good enough to compensate for your teammates weaknesses.
u shhould get used to it. because the higehr u climb, its just gonna get worse and u constantly have to carry ppl worse than you.
I heard that there are people grateful for playing in high 4k :(
but i like how you guys entirely confirm what im claiming despite thinking that ure saying something else
im being punished for winning too many games
what you are implying is forced 50% matchmaking gives u worse odds by giving you worse teammates.
what i'm saying is you are just no longer good enough to win by your own individual skill after you've possibly climbed too high. but fair matchmaking. i.e., the ppl u play with are same skill as you, but your psychological bias is affecting your perception of them. thinking your 'punished' is just plain fucking wrong. lol
arin you have 4k syndrome. u should take a break from dota.
20 games?
how about 2000 games that im playing in 4k averages? does that suit your 10 iq tastes?
which just proves my point
5% games defwins
50% everyone is fucking awful and you need to try your hardest to have a CHANCE to win (not to be mixed with winning!)
45% def losses
can you guys stop to talk about me
uhh my point is your memory is fucked up and u shouldnt trust it.
this whole thread is documenting <20 games am i right?
so unless u actually went trough all your 2000 games to assess which ones were "unwinnable" and which ones were "free wins". what you're whining about is as good as random variability.
you have 1k syndrome you should just quit dota
i cant understand how anyone with 2 digit iq can play on sub 2k
> try your hardest
that's how u become better in dota and get mmr
i like how you're trying to correlate iq with mmr, implying that your higher mmr than me means u have more iq than me. lol implying that u think iq = intelligence as well.
lol
take a break. your tilt is obvious, and ur mind is obviously fucked and ur losing games because of it.
ppl with 4k toxicitiy tend to have more games than mmr. but they cant stop playin this game. the behaviours you tend to see are clearly exhibited in this thread.
you won 27 lost 20 games.
what the hell
arin ure supe rtoxic
i don't actually know why do i have still hope in you that you can understand anything
it's either sad or funny how you think that you got everything thought out even though you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about
if anything you said held any importance you wouldn't be 1k rofl
arin i never had any problems with u but as a person that's not u and isnt a spunki or a meme, im telling u; you got obvious issues and dont take it as an insult iim just implying this many games in around the same mmr range clears out that it couldnt be ur m8s since every game it's gonna be different ppl rarely the same guys. my rl friend got from 3.7 to 5.6 in 2 months u think his games were heaven and urs only has retarded ppl? it's u dude ffs u acutally implied ur problems as memes or stuff like i know this "insert ur self aware problem" thing but oh well imma blame the situations anyway. i've literally seen u post these !!
lol. i dont have to say anything anymore. because you're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
this is a red flag guys. someone is exhibiting signs of severe autism. lmao
ye ye guys my team is holding contests in doing the largest amount of stupid shit in shortest amount of time to erase any kinds of progress im making towards victory, or just straight feeding/jungling and being afk since beginning for whatever reason
but apparently i'm the one who's in the wrong after all! maybe i should just feed and instalock junglers too maybe im going to win more games like that and solve my obvious issues!
this is more opinion than anything.
no one is saying you're in the wrong. but it's a clear mindset issue here. a 5,6k may not share the same hatred towards what you're describing, because they could possibly see other solutions in a game. instead what you're doing is wasting energy looking at the stupid shit your teammates are doing. this causes you to lose objectivity. it's plain and simple.
>3.7 to 5.6 in 2 months
A link to his dotabuff pls
sorry guys i climbed too much im not being able to compensate for my jungler while playing against triple lane mid while an usual offlaner dies on safelane on a single hero that should have virtually 0 ways to kill him
well maybe if you accepted that you are where you are, you wouldnt be so mad at having 50% winrate (actually u had 27/47 winrate recently), and some random losses wouldnt get u so worked up.
you should only be upset if you a)think you are much better than your bracket (so u are not where u belong) b) u have sub 50 winrate, became worse, and lost like 1000 mmr like some of the ppl here have.
at least stop queuing for today
7-7 holy shit dude
next game hmmm what teammates do i get next time
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
how do u think did i climb from 4.6 to 5.7 in a few weeks fam
what i noticed from party mm is that its supeor ez to trigger and tilt u
i'd not be surprised if ure the reason why ur mates get triggered and eventually feed
srsly dont ask others for this type of help ppl... u gonna hear either u suck or u got this prpblem both ways u gonna react defensively thus not getting any result but more meaningless flaming conversations. u wanna "git gud" quit ur current beliefs. that u might think it's impossible to climb. that ppl are all shit in ur team. dont expect others to show their good side from the start.
let me tell u smth about ppl. in a random game at the start, 80% of ppl are neutral to other players, the other 20 are either real nice ppl who try to communicate, annoying ppl who keep talking about every small thing, and flamers from start ppl like "oh shit we got a russian in our team gg" or feeders bc they didnt get the role they wanted. let's put aside those min1 feeders since this is a rarer case let's look at the normal scenarios. ppl are either already positive or neutral. what u wanna do is keep a positive player positive, and turn neutrals also adaptable to ur ideas by ur own positive play. dont be an annoying fuck who congrats ppl for every small thing like a baby. but make ppl feel good. starting is if u got a jungler who is contesting ur rune at start, leave the rune and go block. this makes him subconsciously think u r a nice guy a 100 gold prize vs a guy who is going to listen to u later on?? then there's having well played on chat wheel and spamming it for every nice move. altho this doesnt feel like much but this simple thing can make ppl listen to u l8er. i myself turned feeders into team coordinators with some simple methods.
but first, u gotta be fuckin positive urself. u dont gotta be sunshine and rainbow, just want to win. be willing to sacrifice ur farm for a gank to help ur m8. be willing to give up runes, not ping ppl for their mistakes. NEVER ping ppl when they do smth wrong. never say u did this wrong either say nothing or say do this next time (not dont do thus next time, but do the other thing next time)
@friendly player ok this is my friend
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/303680896
he went to 5.6 then back and forth and now is around 5.4 i think. he had ember and invo winstreaks i remember AND he is toxic af. i definitely believe he couldve been 6k by now if not bc of toxicity. he has arin's issue of blaming teammates but he doesnt lose hope and give up in any game he tryhards the shit out of games even if he's triggered and flaming at the same time. unlike arin who gets triggered ezly first, then triggers others, then gives up on the game putting no active effort on solo comebacks.
I like to ping like 9430493043 times if some1 fucks up and also rage into micro saying what do I think about them, their lives, their families and their dota skills
but agn arin admits his mistakes and knows where his wrong but in the heat of the moment cant control it unlike my friend he never accepts that "russians" dont have i cant play dota right syndrom
like if u actually understand how much impact that X ping has on the game and still do it, u got severe problems and this is just a game u are doing the same thing in ur real life and it's gonna give u god awful results l8er on...
not talking about X pings generally being a partially nrgative person meaning u r waiting for smth bad to happen sk u start focusing on it and spread negativity and shit all over everyone. while if smth nice and good happens u take it for granted or "oh finally smth bice happened oh well
Lul why Im not surprised it's invoker and ember and not some offlane/support heroes
search on google "dotabuff forums 4.8k to 5.7k (jakrio spam)" abd find the topic if u interested
JAKIRO here I go, 5k
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/92536008
feels good being the cause of my loss for first time in 20 games
i'd be 6 slotted if i were playing ta against myself by the time she finished pike but my account is cursed so obviously other people can perform far worse than me and still climb to 5k
understandable have a good day sirs im going to bed after 26 hours of awakeness
continuing tomorrow
Matchmaking doesnt care if you lost 11 games out of 12 and it doesnt care if you gained 600 mmr in 3 days. MM cannot know that Vlad from ukraine that just got matched with you lost his last 9 games, that he is tilted as fuck and he is about to pick axe and ruin your game.
All what matters for MM are setting you chosen yourself (language and server). Based on those settings, MM tries to find you teammates with similiar or same MMR and behaviour score. There is no OTHER variables included in algorythm of MM. You get it? No conspiracy behind it.
Therefore, when you load up the game you have chance of winning same as chance of lossing. Period.
These Screenshoots prove nothing except you are extremly delusional and passively aggressive person that is not capable of realising that there is no even slight chance of proving he is right.
please dont or i will wipe this thread with something borderline bannable and absolutely disgusing
dude for real chill a bit more O_O
also i dont know when jacked stopped spewing daddy-level bullshit around but he certainly doesnt anymore, listen to the guy
jacked is an aggressive animal rn try not getting bitten rofl
pls just stop playing atm dude , when tilted u just LOST and LOST
experience : 4k to 3750 :(
when i relax instantlyback to 3950 now (only 1 loss since 3750)
WUT, daddy-level bullshit? lul whats that supposed to mean
@sia im harmless dude. i only bite assholes.
You can't lose mmr if you don't play mmr
Ez double down once a week abuse izi inflation
Look hidden pool is real shit. Just go 2 weeks without pinging or getting reported and you will notice the difference.
dont forget keep pma, your mindset is what stops you from winning the games!
not the intentional feeders, dual mids and afk junglers
nononono!