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Spectre radiance rush decision in General Discussion
varjager

    I have this mindset that it doesnt matter if im having a good or bad laning phase with spectre radiance rush is the only way to go.
    When im having a really bad laning phase with spectre and i decide to build>"mom/aqulia/treads/phase/drums/yasha/vg/diffusal" it doesnt really do anything.
    I feel like if i hold on to the gold and get that radiance i atleast have a chance to catch up in farm if things turn around.

    This is obviously a skill/mindset problem that im having trouble with.

    Feachairu

      i always go aquila/phase phase/aquila - urn(maybe magic wand after or before urn) - yasha -radi with this hero

      Oldman

        Y I also go phase wand aquila. Then radi or blade mail if I want to fight earlier for example against Tinker.

        TokyoTokyo

          if you want to fight early, dont skip urn.

          Cashmere

            There's not reason to rush radiance early unless you're ahead and have the gold for it.
            Otherwise any 2k gold item after treads aquila will suffice and help secure farm through fights with haunt.
            That 2k gold item is dependent on what you need in that particular game (bm/hood/vang/vessel).

            Justin Weaver

              If u are not sure that you can't even get at least the relic by 22 minutish then forget going for radi, go for another fighting build

              Mode : TOPSON

                actually if u below 4k i think tread/phase - aquila - radiance rush is good
                aquila is all you need for farm i think

                Story Time

                  go MoM, seriously :D

                  Shou

                    you should be able to fight with a 2k gold item, and be pretty decent at it
                    i dont see the point in rushing radiance, you dont need to farm on this hero, you can just win midgame, and get a midgame radiance if you need it

                    Hupples

                      You should always get at least treads (and probably aquila) before radiance since they make you farm faster and do more damage during your ultimate.

                      Zahari Baharov

                        MoM is legit many pros do it like Ace...also makes jungling easier and faster so you can have radi in 25 min or so even in really hard game

                        pixelgoo

                          Phase Boots - Vanguard - Radiance. - Game Won. Other builds are meh.

                          The main point though - never rush Radiance first item. Get boots and minor item (Drums, VG, Urn) only then go Radiance. In that case you can fight early game and you have more hp to survive. Instant Radiance is bad idea, you will farm it very slow and even after that you will farm slow because pure Radiance doesnt do much. You need boots, good lvl and some minor item. Then it's ez win.

                          michael sassbender

                            i almost always go wand > aquila > treads > radiance, sometimes get a vanguard in between treads and rad if they have strong ganking heroes. between treads and rad just play like a little bitch and you should be good.

                            Lruce Bee

                              Your mindset is not wrong and I can see why you would have it since you are a normal skill player.

                              Hopefully you at least have treads Aquila. Maybe just treads stout qb if you are really greedy.

                              Reason why higher skilled players don't rush things is because it is detrimenta to your early game. Having a bad start will make you susceptible to enemy team snowballing. You need to do whatever Little to beef up in early game otherwise they can end in 20 mins. That's why higher skilled players don't rush radiance at all cost. They can also participate in early teamfights and get more gold. They have better farm patterns and won't end up with a 30 min radiance usually.

                              But as you well know, archons are gonna have 0 impact and 35 mins radiance. So my advice is rush that radiance and try not to even have a bad early game. It simply is too avoidable at that mmr.

                              Rocket

                                You get radiance when your team (including you) is in a position to survive whilst you save up for a relic. So generally you can rush it more the lower the skill level.

                                The higher the skill the more likely it is you need to contribute something earlier hence why you get comments suggesting getting more than just treads+aquila.

                                菊花之茶

                                  get oov + diffusal those stack with illusion

                                  5852

                                    7.18 Meta is more on laning stage. you lose the lane they can have better map control and bounty control which is worth more than tower now. Better go vanguard wand treads before going rad to survive laning phase.

                                    Oldman

                                      What you guys think of mom ? Is it actually worth getting ? It helps with chasing probably and farming but is 2k item worth it ?

                                      Chiwa

                                        Treads aquila blademail before radiance Cx

                                        Feachairu

                                          im sure mom is a midgame item for spectre before butterfly,not a early game item

                                          its not about 4k or 5k or 3k or archon below games srsly,if you can destroy your enemies from minute 0 why not
                                          just pt+aquila or phase+aquila then farm like 9999 minutes till you got radi and fighting is srsly boring,wtf

                                          Shou

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