I believe he's basically trying to answer a commonly asked question so people can have a proper perspective. However, unless he's planning on doing the math for everyone it still won't answer the question.
My party ranked games I win about 67% of the time. I'm currently 3.9k how long will it take me to get 5k at roughly 7 party ranked games a week or 1 a day?
Solo queue i am currently 3k and win about 55% of the time at roughly 2 games a day since you did the math for me it seems I will achieve 4k solo in about 200 days.. lol
Yea just plug in your numbers to that formula and find the number of days and set your expectations.
Days needed = MMR GAP/ ((Win rate - Loss Rate) X games/day X 25).
^ 200 days isn't bad considering you only play 2 games/day.
lol just a couple hours ago I was trying to calculate how many days I need to get to 5k from 4k, with a 55-60% winrate, by playing 4 games a day on average. Magic.
^ not if your win rate is 50.05%, in which case you'll be playing this game through retirement.
realistically, only 5-15% of matches are not winnable under 6k due to any other fault other than your own (teammates feeding, enemy smurf, lag)
this number will only drop in higher than 6k+ mmr due to team play actually being mandatory, meaning that a loss can occur out of team mistakes that aren't intentional.
now, i haven't personally seen any boosters above 75% winrate while boosting in the 6-7k brackets, but there could be.
^ if you win all the "winnable" games under 6K, i.e. 85% of your games, you really deserve to be out of that bracket.
Those with 55-60% win rate have a lot of room to improve.
At the end of day, I'm okay with having a lower win rate if that allows me to play some "fun heroes" like Sandking than spamming the same boring pitlord every game for a 70-80% win rate.
i prefer playing boring pitlord every game in ranked to get 70-80 %wr.
why u play your fav hero(in my case is invoker) and get 50%wr when u can spam winning heroes??
u stop play or play unrank if u bored spamming hero
Every loss is avoidable.
If a 5k was playing instead of me he wud have won almost every game I lost given they knew the position.
My ranked Winrate is 60% and climbing. I want to reach 2k and think I can do it in the span of 2 weeks. How many games I need?
@idc mmr
Some people still want to have fun while trying to win
Some people simply play ranked to increase some number
Cookie are you ever re-releasing the RIKI MMR guide 1-5k ?
the people have spoken.
too bad cuki doesnt know how to roam anymore ayy lmao
just came here to say that
The key variables to gaining MMR are as follows:
1. Your win rate
is kinda wrong.
idk man...i just play everyday till i get 25 mmr...once i get it i stop playing ranked for the day and watch replays...i reaaaaaaaally hate losing what i just gained....works out wonders for me...no tilt and no playing with the same retard twice...overall very slow progress but its guaranteed success... i get around a guaranteed 200 mmr per week which is 1000 mmr every month and a week ...not impressive but i get really scared of losing when i play too much in one day..the more games i play in a day the higher the chance i lose...i think of dota in ranked like a mountain...the higher you climb the harder it becomes so you have to rest during your climb...if you get way too tired you just slip and falll...im not talking like im a 5k player who wouldnt get tired from destroying 2k players...im talking like im a 2k player who wants to climb to 3k this month and is so far having no issues with that using his way... maybe when im actually better at the game i will stop being such a pus.sy..but till then 25 mmr a day is my trick...i have 70% winrate on sk so i only play him in ranked....i did learn alot not only about him but about the offlane in general...so i highly doubt cheesing my way to higher mmr will result in an mmr drop since i try to improve on the position not on the hero
the people have spoken.
too bad cuki doesnt know how to roam anymore ayy lmao
Not the CM one Cookie released another guide under the account RIKI which basically explained, well... everything ( mechanics, last hitting etc.)
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Gaining MMR is a function of net games won. Depending on whether your win rates is equal to, at, or greater than 50%, your MMR will decline, stay the same, or rise.
The key variables to gaining MMR are as follows:
1. Your win rate
2. The number of games you play/day
3. Your target MMR to gain
As an example, if your current MMR is 4K and the target is 5K MMR, and you play about 4 games on average/day and the win rate is about 55% of your games averaging about 25 MMR per win (and 45% of losses where you lose 25 MMR), you'd need = 1000/(4 X .1 X 25) = 100 days of dedicated game-play.
In other words, with a 55% win rate, every game your expected MMR gain is 2.5. If you play 4 games a day, you can expect to win 10 MMR/day on average. To close a 1000 MMR gap, you'd need to play at that rate for 100 days.
Days needed = MMR GAP/ ((Win rate - Loss Rate) X games/day X 25).
If you could bump up your win rate to 60%, you'd reduce the number of days needed from 100 to 50 (because you've essentially doubled your expected daily MMR gain from 2.5 to 5).
There's a cap on your win rate, because a % of your games will be beyond your control:
a. Bad team draft
b. Throw/tilt
c. Bad luck/Bad play
d. Disconnect
I'd say about 40% of games are like that where it's autoloss (2/5). That means you have a fair shot of winning around 60% or 3/5 games. If you're really good and truly deserve to be in a higher bracket (either due to skill or spamming some cheese shit), you can convert some of the 40% autoloss to wins as well, and end up with a >60% win rate.