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    Riguma Borusu

      Juggernaut
      Sniper
      Dazzle
      Venomancer
      Beastmaster

      Lol just kidding I have no fucking idea.

      Fee Too Pee

        carry : probably jugger

        Offlane : easily abaddon

        Mid : Meepo if u can play it , SF

        Support : Dazzle . venge

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        evy

          Nobody remembers the 5 man min 0 deathball lineup with luna drow abba WD NP?

          Jacked

            I'm sure you need a Death prophet lone Druid and drow in there somewhere. Then maybe lesh/pugna/venomancer

            cartel

              I once played in a super annoying lineup.... it was smthn like a visage(me)drow arcwarden jakiro and something else... rax in 15 mins
              another good one involved a sandking(me) tusk deathprophet sven dazzle... game won in 20 mins

              Player 345068850

                I did one a month or two ago
                We had NP,SB,Leshrac,Axe and SF
                Its was the most fun i had for months in dota lol

                Cheap Laugh Guy

                  you mean drow strat?

                  Zen

                    you mean the 2k strat?

                    LeFlash

                      go 2-1-2

                      Offlane: Jakiro/pugna + abaddon

                      Mid: Veno / DK - Any lane dominator would work since enemy supports will be forced to stay in their lane cuz of duals, no need to be a pushing hero

                      Safe lane: Huskar + oracle/dazzle

                      Just make sure they dont get Ancinet aparition and you're good to end pre min 20.

                      >tfw no gamer girl peeing gf

                        Huskar, Necros, Jakiro, Veno, Viper.

                        You pick the lanes.

                        Dire Wolf

                          Deathball needs some kind of heal to sustain the push. That's why jug and dazzle are so common for deathball pushes.

                          I'd probably go:

                          Jug, heals and good dmg for pushing
                          Abbadon, heals and the aura is really good for pushing
                          Clinkz, you need someone ranged for high ground and clinkz is really good at that. Drow strats you need to pick more than one ranged.
                          Beastmaster, good aura, good creeps for push
                          Ogre/venge, bloodlust or dmg aura/-armor

                          You could easily swap in troll or wk for jug, dazzle for support, enigma or chen for beastmaster

                          Dire Wolf

                            Or you could just go all cc tanky heroes like axe, wk, sven, dk, nightstalker and just run at everyone all day (and night). Shit like that is really hard to defend unless you have super team fight that can wipe them like black hole + wyvern + earthshaker ult or something.

                            jinzo

                              carry: terrorblade
                              mid: sf
                              offlane: aba
                              roam: pudge
                              support: shadow demon

                              >tfw no gamer girl peeing gf

                                ^ Or 5 annoying heroes with DoT like Huskar, Necros, Jakiro, Veno, and Viper.

                                GRANT MACDONALD

                                  Safelane: Lycan
                                  Mid: DP
                                  Offlane: brood momma
                                  Pos5:Shaman
                                  Roam/jungle: Enchantress

                                  Jacked

                                    lycans not a deathballer though

                                    Snu

                                      Pretty sure OD + Drow + Pugna + Abaddon + WD is a good Deathball strat.

                                      GRANT MACDONALD

                                        @jacked

                                        Howl
                                        Behavior: No Target
                                        Grants bonus damage and bonus health to Lycan, all allied heroes and all units under their control. Howl has double effect during night.

                                        Also the +10 regen aura from HOTD and +6 from a dominated satyr would disagree

                                        Dire Wolf

                                          Forgot about lycan, he is a good group pusher. There's a lot of heroes who can deathball, no one superior draft.

                                          Riguma Borusu

                                            A lot depends on the enemy draft, like do they have wave clear or are their heroes hard to kill. If you can never kill them you will have to push around that.

                                            fx

                                              I guess chen or ench could work right?

                                              Shou

                                                Drow strats
                                                Huskar strats
                                                The occasional all in push strat (pugna, warlock, jakiro, leshrac, etc)
                                                Lycan broodmother is kinda nasty, with howl u give every spider bonus dmg

                                                Shou

                                                  Brood mama can just completely deathball and win games sub 20 if theyre good

                                                  ねずみ

                                                    bat clock tb sky ember? :thinking:

                                                    evy

                                                      ^rofl

                                                      fx

                                                        It would have worked if you guys left me alone vs timber and ns kappa

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                                                        Fee Too Pee

                                                          Why no one mention meepo

                                                          Erase Humanity

                                                            Death ball heroes usually pick very early which is an indicator of being more ability dependent than item dependent. They usually belong to one of this two categories: push heroes or fight heroes. Push heroes often have some form of AOE damage, AOE attack speed, AOE sustain, summons or castable abilities on towers. Fight heroes usually rely on flat physical damage increase from spells, High flat magic DPS or AOE crowd control.
                                                            AOE damage: Drow, Venge, Luna
                                                            AOE attack speed: Troll, Beastmaster, Ogre
                                                            AOE sustain: Dazzle, Chen, Enchantress and certain cheap aura carriers(Vlad, Helm, Mek,...) like Bounty
                                                            summons: Lycan, NP, LD, Beastmaster, Brood, Visage
                                                            Tower spells: Lesh, SS, Pugna, Jakiro, DK, DP
                                                            flat physical damage increase: Ursa, BB, Brood, Huskar, Blood, Venom, Sniper, Clinkz, Razor, Meepo, Luna
                                                            magic DPS: Clockwerk, Tinker, Lina, Puck, etc.
                                                            AOE crowd control: Sand king, Jakiro

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                                                            Jacked

                                                              very informative thank you. although not sure how is flat physical dmg increase or magic dps relevant to the topic

                                                              ShiftingSkys

                                                                Jakiro, SS, Troll, SF, Veno

                                                                Erase Humanity

                                                                  That's some form of nonscaling early advantage over scaling heroes. For example as soon as Ursa is level 7, he can max his Fury swipes that does a lot of damage. But some hero like Spectre needs a lot of levels and items like Radiance, Diffusal Blade, Butterfly, etc to make her Haunt do damage.