General Discussioncant win a damn game with jugg

Get a dagger after diffusal. If you can't reach them you can't kill them. If you're well ahead try dagger after manta

prioritise aquila over pms, skip pms and go for wand instead if there's a bb/lina etc, blink after manta almost always unless you're snowballing with your team
you seem to get diffusal then basher in a lot of games, decide on one or the other as diffusal gives you the purge u need to chase linas for example + extra dps when spinning/manta but if it's a storm you'd be prioritising basher into abyssal where you'd blink abyssal stun into omni for the pick
otherwise the conventional blink into spin, right click during (burns mana) then diffusal right click kill after

a lot of chinese pros prefer silver edge with jug instead of blink for the versatility as the dps/atkspeeed but often only when there's a benefit to break like against a bb, aba, timber etc (silver edge hit abba, abyssal stun into omni will burst him without borrowed time proc considered the burst is high enough)

not sure if just me but id recommend always investing in 175 health talent into armour, ALWAYS, just cause every single item for jug will compliment the latter but no item you'd get on jug gives you any hp or armour until VERY late where bfly/skadi comes in

oh and don't first pick, at least 3rd, you want your spin tp escaping to be your bread and butter

i see no mjolnir in jugg

Is it ok for melee agi cores to skip PMS? I don't think that is a good idea, and also yeah get Dagger after Manta/Diffu

you can skip PMS if its uncontested farm. You get PMS when your having farm contested. As for losing with jugg.... press R to kill things , press q and tp when in trouble.

drop healing ward after fight. congrats you can now jugg!!

Never skip pms on jugg

Your Item timings are better than Mine, but i have 70% winrate jugg in Solo. So maybe you gotta Do what bungmangler said, cuz thats basicly it. In some games you have to adjust your items dont always go manta diffu.

i maybe noob at jugg but pms is a core.
i always adjust my items i dont always go diffu manta and i think basher after manta is shit. but manta plus diffu such a good item though
i get dagger pretty late because i was trying out if its better as an item after basher bc of the stuff i have been seeing in higher mmr pubs.

i dont think item choices is my problem but definitely positioning and knowing my role as jugg in fights. like its it okay to be greedy and save omnislash stuff like that keeps bugging my mind

not having pms will make your life harder especially in the jungle with no regen

i never took armor and hp talent tho,attack speed and dmg is too good to pass for me

anyways thanks for the tips it helped me play a monster jugg game lol

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3234403154

magic wand also super legit on him i think its a must everygame

funny thing is that i watched a bsj guide on how to team fight with jugg and it was super helpful

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You seem to have good K/D ratio as Jugg, and with you being the hard carry, this should equal victory. Perhaps you are just not lucky. The problem I see with these games is bad item timing:

Getting Manta before Diffusal is not a good idea, since you illusions are not powerful enough yet. At this point, a Diffusal Blade might actually give you more hitting power.

Getting Battlefury not as your first item seems unwise. If you can get it before 20 minute, do it. Otherwise, it is not worth. I don't really understand why you would go other midgame items and then Battlefury.

BF jugg lolol

based on what i've experienced with playing jugger across all brackets ns hs vhs. jugger thrives and shines the most if:

-you have atleast teammates who synergize well with early push ( as a safelane hardcarry with a semi-carry mid it's better if you try to get your advantage and end the game quicker than usual since you gotta take advantage of early power spike of juggernaut to get the game into your favor.

- jugg can early so if possible lead your team force them to do 5 man and force them to pick 5 manning friendly heroes ( pubs are weak against 5 man esp. early on ( IDEAL TEAM MATES FOR JUG IS OGRE VS FOR SUPPORTS, MEK CARRYING OFFLANERS TIDE AND DARK SEER AND FOR MID SF IS FAIR GAME)
- dagger jugg can only be good as an early item if you are middle because you have less burden to carry the team and most of the time you are just creating space for your carry so dagg is good
- for items it's almost always the cookie cutter PMS>PHASE>aquila/wand>MANTA>MAEL/DIFFU>DAG/SB>SE (FOR DIFFU BUILD)/ BASHER FOR MAEL OR FINISH MJOL. the rest is situational like BKB ( preferrably buy bkb when all the outer towers are gone)

TLDR ; JUGG PUSH FAST DONT FUCKING PLAY THE ANTIMAGE GAME UNLESS YOU PLAN TO GET OUTCARRIED BY TROLL OR EVERY TIER ONE CARRY THIS PATCH ( THE PATCH IS ALL BOUT FUCKING GREED) JUGG IS THE OPPOSITE OF GREED ABUSE YOUR POWERSPIKE WITH YOUR TEAMMATES CHOKE THE ENEMY FARM. GET EVERY ROSH DESTROY ANCIENT

IN addition in team fights go for the squishies first. Manta AB crushes every support in 3 secs or less.
never go for their tanky because if someone survives your first 5 second baragge usually that team fight is lost.

High ground pushing is all about healing ward micro manta and spin to deal chip damage . after that wait for cooldown then repeat .
also learn to gauge your teams capacity if your team has an AM or such try not to pressure him to push early and 5 man instead do your shit as more of a ganker/space creator.( usually this is for mid juggernaut) play him kinda like slark wherein you stay at the enemy jungle stealing farm and wait for some brain dead carry jungling

if you have questions feel free I think I've experienced shit with jugg tho im not some pro