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General DiscussionSpectre is dead now.

Spectre is dead now. in General Discussion
Fox McCloud

    I think.

    1) Urn is less optimal.
    2) Other carries outfarm you even more now due to jungle changes.
    3) Haunt is the game's second longest CD skill after Black Hole.
    4) Radiance deals less damage from your illusions.
    5) Creeps meet closer to the offlane tower. Considering Spectre can't gimp ANY offlaner to abuse shrine inactivity, this is another huge nerf.
    6) Blademail CD nerf. Minor, but still.

    EBELEX.COM

      "3) Haunt is the game's second longest CD skill after Black Hole. "

      You might have forgotten that reincarnation cd lasts 240 secs and techies's minefield sign - 360 sec

      EBELEX.COM

        Alright all your thoughts are ok but the general idea that spectre dead is not. Creep gold changes are prolonging games and turning many of them into late game where spectre feels ultragood

        evy

          Urn's stats are not that bad tho

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          Farm then Carry

            Spectre is good at starting fights with her ult, disables blink, reveals enemy position and you can sometimes get a solo kill on a farming hero.
            It's also good for clutch plays like stealing the aegis or killing the cour. But then again, I don't know how to argue.

            evy

              He didnt ask what spectre excels at tho xd

              par73 KB24 | GTUBE

                hey fox you say spectre is dead but I guess you missed the patch notes where jungle respawns are now on a 60 second timer instead of 120 as it was prior to 7.00 (might be wrong about the patch)

                once spec secures that radiance its gametime, good support is going to protect that ass and stack those camps FOR A FIELD DAY

                evy

                  How can anyone have sub 60% winrate with spec after 100+ games ????????????

                  Jacked

                    I unintentionally went into new patch as spectre and bought new urn radiance and bm heart. All I can say is heart is ridiculous on spectre

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                    evy

                      How's urn now jacked? Havent played spec post patch

                      evy

                        Jacked item timings @_@

                        Murranji

                          Yeah spectre is dead. Sven just got an 8% increase in winrate and now has higher winrate than spectre. Hope you all took advantage of it when I told you to.

                          JackPot!

                            "Radiance deals less damage from your illusions. "
                            what?? didnt see this

                            Story Time

                              my sven lost yesterday :D he could not stop farming, I guess it is too much of an addiction for carries, like serious drugs

                              Jacked

                                Well obviously Farmed slower because of the cd nerf. Didn't realize they nerfed it though. Kek

                                fx

                                  I farm to much till my enemy becomes creep :thinking:

                                  Rogue Knight

                                    Well technically she is still good so long as she obtain an items...But for some reason as Sven was now buffed ....he is now stomping in every games...currently the most highest win rate.... but Spec is not dead..

                                    Fox McCloud

                                      How do you build Spectre now? Especially in <5k games where junglers run amok and thus Urn is an extremely risky pickup due to lack of coordinated ganks. You'd end up being a melee creep that goes red every 2 jungle camps in a lot of games.

                                      I've tried Brown Boots - Vanguard - Magic Wand - Iron Talon - Power Treads - Radiance and so on. I also take go 2-1-2-1 then max Dispersion, and then Desolate to better take Ancient stacks and farm the jungles faster.

                                      kormoranas

                                        well he had highest win rate. what did you expect, another buff to him?

                                        pixy

                                          now osfrog try to kill her. fuck you osfrog try to kill my beautiful waifu

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                                          Jacked

                                            How do u know spec is beautiful

                                            npc
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                                              evy

                                                @jacked
                                                Power is the only beauty

                                                知识诅咒

                                                  My spectre can't kill medusa n bristleback at lategame. I know spectre is strong in late game,, but not too much tank

                                                  evy

                                                    you can just ignore bb and kill his teammates
                                                    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3179043266
                                                    Lul 3 counters lul

                                                    Xignum

                                                      spectre not a good tank wtf did i just read

                                                      evy

                                                        Str talent and abyssal is enough for me usually, maybe you're just careless as fuck when you play spectre, please note that she deals damage in a unique way

                                                        Fox McCloud

                                                          Bump - how do you build her now?

                                                          fx

                                                            The usual urn wand radiance

                                                            Hy~

                                                              @Fox -vanguard wtf. You'll slow down your farm. I thought someone at dotabuff once said pms-urn-diff-radiance actually better. Just throw wand, talon and treads there.

                                                              evy

                                                                The only time I would get VG quick is when I'm against against PL or WR lol