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General Discussionis my english teacher retarded

is my english teacher retarded in General Discussion
faw

    she handed us our test papers back today and she marked several grammar errors that don't seem to be errors to me at all

    1) unknown gender of the person you talk about

    example: "The author states x. They believe it to be true."

    afaik i believe that as soon as u don't know the gender, you either use a generic he, or "they", she marked this as an error and advised me to use the passive form instead,

    "The author states x. Whatever was stated is believed to be true."

    I also used "their", as in i.e. "The author states their opinion by...", another "error"

    Edit: i don't believe the passive form to be wrong, i think it's good to spice it up, i simply don't think using "they" is wrong

    2) tenses

    at one point i stated something like "since the US altered their position ...", she marked "altered" with a note saying that i should use "has altered" instead since "since" implies present perfect, but dunno, it sounds wrong & she marked several things that don't seem wrong at all to me, i.e.

    "the text at hand discusses americas oil boom, that was caused by...", marking the "was", stating it is an tense error

    so is she retarded or am i??

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    doc joferlyn simp

      the purpose of language is to communicate ideas, not using it such that everything you write/say is as pristine as the list of women you have slept with

      faw

        :thinking:

        on one hand this is not relevant to the topic, and on the other hand it actually matters in professional situations

        bearcat0611

          she is probably marking proper english whereas you were writing in actual english which is what is spoken and written by your average english speaker. The only thing that I would have said differently is "which was caused by" but I see nothing wrong with what you've said.
          For perspective I am an American high school student.

          doc joferlyn simp

            ^yeah basically. im from the philppines so everything sounds normal tbh

            one syllable anglo-saxon

              "The author states x. Whatever was stated is believed to be true."

              thats something i only imagine a complete degenerate would say



              ur teacher probably confused "they believe it to be true" to not mean "author believes it to be true" but instead "[most] people believe it to be true", if that's ur own essay it's possible but to assume u'd mean that is to assume u're retarded so i'd be triggered if i were u

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              raptured

                You are retarded. 1) is obviously wrong, 2) is wrong as well. Not sure about the last example though. Seems fine to me.

                EDIT: the tense of last the example seems fine to me

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                ywn

                  youre both retarded

                  Bungmangler

                    you're.... you mean you're ;)

                    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

                    ywn

                      u can go in the retard pile as well

                      faw

                        @clockwerkula

                        since she marked all "they"s, "their"s, or "themselves"s i'm rather inclined to think that she got no idea that singular they exists

                        also i made the context as clear as possible, replacing "they" by "the author" in phrases where they might have been misinterpreted

                        one syllable anglo-saxon

                          stop calling me clockwerkula asdhaghuasdt7afdabvsdashd79yeh23rohj2380dfjwei0

                          one syllable anglo-saxon

                            grammar aside the whole "The author states x. They believe it to be true." is reatrded, unless theyre quoting why wiould they state it if they dont believe it to be true in the first place?

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                            faw

                              its just an example i could come up with quickly

                              one syllable anglo-saxon

                                doesnt say anything in favour if ur mental abilities!

                                doc joferlyn simp

                                  ^!!!

                                  Dire Wolf

                                    Idk about the tenses without seeing the rest of the paragraph. If america's oil boom is current then maybe using is instead of was makes sense. Tense rules are very odd to me anyway cus there is nothing technically wrong with using passive tense but it's frowned upon for some reason.

                                    For the first thing your use of they is wrong but her solution is stupid. Because we've gotten so fucking pc around here people forget that english doesn't have a gender neutral pronoun when referring to a specific person, but that doesn't make it ok to use they because they refers to a group of people. So you default to he. That's also why their opinion is wrong, is should be his opinion.

                                    Correct:

                                    The author states x. He believes it to be true.
                                    The author states his opinion by...

                                    1-IceTea 🌟

                                      You use the normal English.
                                      She use the perfect English.
                                      She is better then you.
                                      If she is retard.
                                      You are idiot amount retard.
                                      Report over.
                                      Sorry for my broken England.It's just been boom by techies.

                                      [Lk].Zano

                                        English still doesn't have a recognized standard form, so you'll encounter several teachers who'll evaluate you based on what they beleive to be correct or what their specific institution tells them is correct.

                                        Also, I think the use or at least the acceptance of "they" as a singular neutral pronoun is relatiively new, so it's still frowned upon in several places.

                                        You could say it's not yours or your teacher's fault, it's the circumstances. But hey, if your teachers never told you what they considered to be correct before that test, then they are the retards.

                                        Savvy Cat

                                          It looks like nitpicking by your teacher for the most part.

                                          I might do it differently, however, given the assumption of neutrality.

                                          'Invoker has been given a test back by the English teacher, Miss Generic, with errors marked on it. Invoker, of course, believes the errors to be the error.'

                                          Invoker referring to the DB person posting, who's gender is unknown to me, at the moment of typing this.

                                          Let us reword it.

                                          'Invoker has been given a test back by the English teacher, Miss Generic, with errors marked on it. They, of course, believe the errors to be the error.'

                                          Either way would be fine. But I think most people would understand the first sentence structure with more ease, however, than the second.

                                          And yes! I do, indeed, love commas!

                                          It is like my fetsh; don't judge, please.

                                          salt enjoyer

                                            Syntax is everything, but it would really dependsthough. You get nailed for using tenses, and order incorrectly when writing formal, or higher education material(s).

                                            1. Whatever the author states, is believed to be true.

                                            2. The stated opinion of the Author is x.

                                            3. She is correct on this one. However, she does seem like she's being a bit pedantic about the tenses as this something she could have had let slip easily.

                                            TheMaverick427

                                              As far as I know "they" is technically correct. It does vary depending on the variant of English being spoken but from my perspective it is okay. The only problem with using "they" in that situation is that it could be ambiguous, like през горите през полята already said.

                                              The tense stuff is impossible to say without seeing the full sentence. For example saying "the text at hand discusses americas oil boom, that was caused by the discovery of oil in Alaska" is perfectly correct. However you need "is" for a sentence like: "the text at hand discusses americas oil boom, that is caused by the ongoing demand for petrol". The determining factor is whether the cause of the oil boom was an even in the past or an ongoing event.

                                              Still its impossible to be sure about anything in English without knowing which variant is in use. In South Africa and the UK its spelt "colour" but America spells it "color" which just looks plain wrong to me but is the correct spelling in America.

                                              Pale Mannie
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                                                Pale Mannie

                                                  best i can answer for you

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                                                  faw

                                                    alright thank u everybody!

                                                    Pale Mannie
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                                                      Shou

                                                        Tbh grammar and even dictionary definitions r bullshit. Language evolves, words mean what society uses it for, and grammar precedents shudnt matter unless it causes a confusion of ideas. If the message is soundly conveyed language is working, if the message is mistaken then either ur use of the language or the language itself is flawed.

                                                        attila

                                                          You're learning in the french system aren't you?

                                                          I wouldn't be fussed about this, french people learn english by learning the rules by heart since that's how french works but english isn't a language that functions like that

                                                          English is far more instinctive so often there are "mistakes" like the ones you made that are actually correct, but teachers learnt it in a particular way so will consider them as mistakes

                                                          Most of what you wrote does sound awkward but is correct, what she corrected you with sounds equally messy so I wouldn't trust her corrections

                                                          Feed

                                                            Asians better in English than their Euro counterparts?

                                                            ImagineDodong

                                                              Looks fine to me lol.

                                                              Dire Wolf

                                                                So apparently is not technically wrong but using they as a singular is discouraged in American English but is becoming more popular. I was always taught in formal English to use he when gender is unknown.

                                                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

                                                                1-IceTea 🌟

                                                                  Gothe I can't see your answer

                                                                  Jingo

                                                                    There is nothing wrong with using "they" for a single person who could be male or female. I am from America and am a native English speaker. Sorry for your teacher's mistake.

                                                                    Jingo

                                                                      Forgot to mention your tenses are fine, too.

                                                                      Savvy Cat

                                                                        His answer would draw Tumblr warlords to DB for a war to end all wars.

                                                                        CUTNPASTE

                                                                          Prescriptive grammar REEEE.

                                                                          葉富森

                                                                            And here I'm with my chemistry teacher who scolds me saying there shouldn't be a phone on the table during class.thing is it's break time

                                                                            all role player

                                                                              So... How is this related to dota