yeah i did OOV, tangos, 2 clarity pots. Maybe I should get Wind Lace though, last game I got helm of dominator instead of drums. Could I get both ? Or get the drums instead ?
I went,
OOV, boots of speed, arcane boots, aethers, helm of dominator, scepter
I didn't really get a chance to use the scepter because the game was such a disaster by the time I had it. It a must have ?
Scepter isnt necessary unless u have a good hero for it, im pretty sure like roaming mk and riki u can transition into a semi carry if ur successful. Also having a drums or vlads sounds like a fine idea imo.
^if you have an agi carry and/or a stat heavy hero that goes well with illusions(dk comes into mind) then scepter is a good item to go for, otherwise stack auras, or just transition into a core with HoT etc
I just had a great game, started out so well that 3 of them ragequit. I ganked bottom, mid then top. All in succession. Caused 3 ragequits.
OOV + 3 clarities + tangos to start the game. Didn't even use any tangos, got brown boots and bottle real fast off it just ganking the lanes.
Once the 3 people quit it wasn't real match anymore so couldn't tell how my items did. Went Arcane>Aether>HotD
not sure if i need a wand, i haven't yet. Or if I need Arcanes, maybe could get phase boots. Aethers is so good though, swap from half the map.
CK is such a menace early on, 375ms with brown boots, clarities and bottle he is so sustainable roaming and being a menace to all the lanes.
LOVE IT so far
need more tips people!
I actually did scepter on a CK game a couple weeks ago at the end once we had megas, i used it on our PA. My illusions were throwing the dagger and critting for 1k each. seemed silly.
Or am i mistaken? Can I use the spells once i scepter a hero ? Maybe it was the actual PA player throwing the dagger? I forget. It seems OP as I type this...makes me question if it happened
Aether seems unecessary. Arcanes is bad imo, bottle and wand/raindrops/shrines shud be good. Plus there is urn, drums, vlads, for sustain, and treads is too much dps on an illusion hero to pass up.
next game i'll try skipping the aethers to see if it's needed or not
not positive if i need arcane either, think i'd be good without, thinking phase boots..
I wud get drums but im a scrub lol. Something like boots bottle wand treads drums/urn/vlads echo sabre bkb HoT.
Phase seems bad on ck, u dont need the dmg and u have a shit ton of ms already. He needs mana badly.
This is a roaming support. I buy alot of wards etc... I'm not going for echo, bkb.
He has tons of mana with aether/arcane
Wand/stick is core on him if you're gone roam, that little bit of hp/mana burst can help you use a 2nd stun/rift or even save you from tower diving.
Ur ck u cant go running around with no carry items and be useful in the late game. U have to eventually transition to a semi carry.
anyone got a link to a high level roaming Chaos game ? id love to see a replay, don't see one
im watching this match - https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2992255384?guide=15d846
its listed as mid support, but he doesn't buy any wards except to start with
anyone know a different replay?
Wards dont define a support, a roaming support usually wants only 1 ward if ur someone who wants oov and wind lace starting.
I liked this writeup/build
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/44l53y/the_notsoquick_n_dirty_on_support_chaos_knight/
Question, in general, when someone says they 'roam' with a certain hero ,or they are a 'roamer', does this automatically mean support ?
roam = support ?
Mk can roam, but he usually ends up carrying in a way. Roaming means u r lower on the farm position, but some roamers skill sets place them in a carrying role imo despite their farm position.
hmm....I might try to jungle CK if my team pick cancer luna what you think?
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2993782390
On the hero that I not familiar at all I do this good shit out,given any hero in my hand I will make him/she/it a jungler
The PA throwed 2 daggers because of the new talent and you mistaken it for illu throwing them, I think.
You can get Midas if ganks are going real nice, b4 15min. However things hardly go real nice for roaming CK so just drums and aether
I like tranquil after aether
Ck farms heroes, not creeps(can't remember wether I heard that in a stream, a friend told me that or it was a video) so yeah roaming ck is better than jungle ck
Specter the tb=fastest tower pusher.i actually wondering if somebody runs ck agh on safe lane carry and the mid is either luna or tb. Ultra cancer if its work
core ck is pretty broken in normal skill currently.
I think phase is a terrible idea for him whether he is roaming or not. power treads definitely the best choice.
midas also a terrible choice imo. you can get an armlet for almost the same price and armlet is pretty much all he needs to start doing real hurt.
max rift not stun otherwise you'll have to go back to base after every gank and the cd on level 4 rift means you can use it to initiate and chase in the same gank.
Anything you play in normal rank normal games work. You could buy 6 boots and win the game and think it was a good build EleGiggle
that's a retarded comment. just because you could win in NS with any build does not equal a NS player being able to win with any build.
yeah i did played it again, haven't gotten midas yet. The roam CK is so good at destroying all of the lanes. If the safelane has any type of stun its free kills all day. Creates so much space for the carry.
2 clarities, tangos, mango, smoke
thats about all i start with, then I get brown boots and bottle.
then aether, drums, and then I began transitioning into a core with heart/armlet/vlads/, whatever the team needs
I've never been behind in gold or levels, haven't gotten midas yet. Maybe it's just being at 2k bracket, but i have been having great success with this so far. CK roaming is just such a menace to all the lanes. We had a Slardar offlane, so I come up there and thats easy kill. In Safelane we had some snares so I come down there and its a kill. Midlane im so fast/tanky I can get a gank off there too even at the tower.
But meka, isnt wk much slower than ck, and scales worse in general? Like ck can hit people more reliably but wk is so slow. Idk just asking
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Who here plays some roaming Chaos Knight support ?
What items do ya get, what lane ya start out in? Or where do you go when the game begins ? What are some of your strats or ways you go about your business ?
I've just started playing roaming supports and am enjoying it, just read about CK roam and thought i'd give it a try. I played one game just now and did awesome and my team DOMINATED and were in their base after 20minutes, but we had a peruvian 3 stack(US East) who absolutely REFUSED to push no matter how many enemies were dead, despite the Aegis...etc etc....it was miserable. BUT I loved the roaming CK, I had to start offlane because the peruvians were being peru, but, next time i'll start safelane.
Any tips/advice would be great, thanks!