General DiscussionIs sf in pub as good as pro games

sf works better when ur team plays around it and make sure u dont feed early game and then u need to go 5 man towers with dragon lance usually which also can be harder in pubs

I feel like when im seeing sf now in pro game is like im seeing alch in 6.88. You let him to get ahead a lot and you win games with that.

An sf will have like 7k gold advantage over anyone in team, he has a butterfly, dlance and silver edge and his team back him up with Ac, solar crest vlads greaves and then they go high ground, only works if your team works around an aegis sf, if not it's not as good

i recommend not picking him against aggresive supports while your own supps aren't really good at counterganking
or this will happen

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2989126091

i died like 4 times in 8 minutes just because venge and bara ran at me and i couldnt do anything

I mean sf dont really have to end early because he is very good at late game and can siege hg really good. Qnd 7k gold advantage is really nothing in ns actually. I used to get 20k gold advantage over enemy team with alch lmao

^^That's because you dont have good enough map awareness.For better player 2 raze before bard charge hit is easy.You must be like oh idk they are coming

That really hurt you a lot. You spec need to be babyseat or he will get solo killed by clock. But if your mirana and lion roam a lot you can kill that ember a lot. You must be tilted after that game lol

Sf is gud

^^That's because you dont have good enough map awareness.For better player 2 raze before bard charge hit is easy.You must be like oh idk they are coming

i recommend drinking bleach
sure, more map awareness would totally help me not get charged and ran at by venge while hugging my tower

thing u described works till level 5 maybe, yes ive got a bunch of return kills after they dove me and even after few deaths i had more farm and xp and ember until level 6

then it was just a shitfest until midgame

Just go eblade into eblade

Kappa

would love to play sf in pubs but pretty sure i'll have a terrible experience since ppl have this mentality of "gank mid till they abandon" with sf more than any other hero and i'm pretty sure half the games i'll just lose in 25 mins with smth like 1/8/2 and get reported by retards (saw the very same happen to enemy sfs a lot, get 3 ppl running at u in mid with no help from supps whatsoever, then when their ancient falls they just type "report sf")