General Discussionheroes crippled the most by silver edge break?

PA and timber

Spectre?

yeah pa and spectre totally crippled a lot.

timber not so much though, he's like a dk.

There's Ursa too, most of his damage is from his passive so he gets kind of cucked

Will silver edge break AM's first and third?

Yeah also the spell shield due to aghanims is also broken by SE

And i also think axe's spin will be removed if you hit him with silver edge

bristleback,all his annoying tankiness gone and he is so shit

dont forget his ulti is gone as well

but drow aura is disabled along with her ulti, that's huge.

Well axe spin is removed but he will still make u atk him so the disable part still works

axe, bristle, pa, wk, aba.

Don't forget about damage reduction, any damage dealer is heavily crippled by this.

As for Break, Tiny. No melee can man fight him w/o BKB/SE (LS can).

What about spirit breaker?

spectre and lv 25 qop

Is the spell life steal disabled by break?

no but because you do 1/2 damage you get v little hp

ive seen qop pop blademail, get broken and jsut fucking die to some random dps carry luna/jugg

I didn't really get that

Bristle imo
He has no innate escape ability, and will not buy one in most cases, and without his tankiness he can't do anything
PA can still blink out and dagger from distance, so you still need some sort of lockdown (similar case to PA, spec, etc), while for BB? He's a snail and an oversized creep without his tankiness

Drow is fucking dead when you manage to get close to her anyway, SE is just an item that puts the nail in the coffin after SB

@apoo aside from break silver edge also applies damage reduction on hit, so your blademail will deal lesser damage and thus u will heal lesser damage

Oh OK forgot about that part

Oh and on this topic enchantress and huskar are pretty much cucked by silver edge.
Though gamepedia says that sf will still receive damage from already gotten souls

i think all stacks gained before the passive breaks will still work thats why timber isnt really cucked by it

OD in mid game will get cucked by silvers edge. but he still got astral to prevent others from hitting himself till the break duration. troll warlord cucked cauz of silvers edge. no attack speed

Yeah stacks gotten before the break still work

I would say that for spectre and viper SE so far the worst nightmare. People dont really buy bkbs on these heroes. As for the other heroes not really. However, if you are ahead then PA is too. Since shes really weak without bkb. As for tiny, bb, dk, timber etc. SE is still good but nothing special. So, viper and spectre d==(^__^).

People dont really buy bkbs on these heroes.

Even if they did, it'd do nothing, because BKB doesn't counter silver edge in any way, both damage output reduction and passive break go through BKB.

Also, timber is cucked by silver edge if you use it to initiate on him.

So can someon explain me about a sven with a SE?I'd like to read your opinions.

^Initial replacement for blink,more dmg/speed but requires 2 conditions
1)Player that have good timing and position
2)enemies that doesn't ward

Spectre and PA.

Sven with SE = really good

Ever since 7.00, Sven's been struggling to just straight up outfarm everyone (even though he still farms fast, just not at the level he was prior to 7.00) and shadow blade helps you farm heroes much more easily than a blink does, it's better for pickoffs so even if your team's full of 2k retards, you can still search for kills and win the game yourself.

Also attack speed is really good on Sven, and SE is also great against heroes it counters, naturally. Combined with blood thorn (which is a viable pickup on sven since he can farm it easily) you're very very scary, since you've become very capable of killing people straight out of silver edge + stun + blood thorn.

In 7.00, the hardcore farming Sven's pretty much gone, and you depend on kills (both tower and hero kills) much more, so you should just get an idea when to five man to take down towers, when to split push, when to pickoff heroes who might be an issue later, and so on.

Basically you go shadow blade on sven in order be a much worse slark, is what I am saying.

Get SB, rush Dagon and use money taken from kills to get multiple DR's until you have no backpack space.

Be a worse Phantom Riki.

or buy 3 daedali because your midlaner is stomping

Wow never really wondered about what the plural of Daedalus was. Daedali makes sense roflmao

well, it's either "daedali" or "ember spirit", you can choose to refer to a plural of daedalus either way

I had a really good Kunkka game today, I managed to farm up three ember spirit!

still, that sounds wrong, so just call it daedali

never noticed silver edge being any good against riki but who knows
same goes for drow and sf

its particularly good against bb, pa, spectre and huskar, but thats pretty much it
as for timbersaw, it doesnt cancel already existing armor charges, only prevents him from getting enw ones

well since sf doesnt lose damage from souls either its not as good as i thought.

but you can remove the drow aura from teh entire team with silver edge so thats a high impact thing

riki as a hard support doesnt care about silver edge right but if you transition into carry lategame and get silver edged, losing over 80% of your dmg output is significant (pretty sure almost no other hero loses as much dmg as riki can lose).

generally when u disable defensive passives like bb/pa/spec its the most detrimental. because when you use silver edge its usully to catch offensively.
i rarely see silveredge's dmg reduction potential /disabling offensive passives come into play except in very late game 1v1 carry manfights

^^ its easy to do as sniper, because you can apply it at 1000+ range

break sk during epi type shit can have huge teamfight impact

ah yea i guess that works, was thinking more of slarks and stuff