General DiscussionEmber build

no radiance
but yeah, his new talents allow him to be magic dmg hero

Sumail had to making a fucking veil to fuck up my pubs

Right now any hero that needs to afk farm for a significant amount of time is really shit because of the super fast meta right now. Ember is in a weird place because typically you have a very strong powerspike early game when your flame guard is maxed which you used to use to hasten your second powerspike once you have BF+some damage items going. Nowadays as the second powerspike requires too much afk farming to reach and talents/buffs make your first powerspike much stronger you see people committing heavily to magic damage items to make the first powerspike as strong as possible.

please just don't do it

i have been experimenting with the build and i think its super good.
im trying to revive orchid ember as well so basically veil bots dag orchid core.

this build is really good not sure how itll fuck up your pubs, ive won a ton of games with it

is the radiance even that good? its just the 15% spell ampl right?

toxic = mute. good name sir

These embers are going these magic damage builds and using their Flame Guard to do damage in the mid-game. Easy thing is to just pick PA/Luna/Jugger and go HoD after Boots/Aquila. Get yourself a purge creep and just keep purging the idiots when they remnant in and pop the veil/blade mail. You will see how fast they disappear when their flame guard disappears. EZ MMR and I just had an idiot go Radiance in a LP game with a Naga on his team. Pretty sure he will be getting another 5 more LP games. The Ember started something like 15-0 and we were all tilted just feeding and the kid still lost. Just because EE legitimized it doesn't mean it is any good. The game in question is here: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2867648118

idk about the radiance follow up though its just hard to farm on ember and it needs 2 items a relic which ember doesnt benefit from alot and its price and recipe which is completely useless unlike orchidd.

why did i even flame this guy
how did i not realise that he's a metaforger and bearer of 7.00

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1905154715

ember is like a shitty mirana honestly just pick mirana u dipshits, ember has higher bursts early tho, going full magic dmg doesnt help ember's main problem which is killing rosh and towers lul. same shit with mirana, so pls stop picking the multi arrow shit pls go for the 100 attack speed and watch towers melt.

radiance after octocore is prolly still decent tho, dont forget cooldown reduction make radiance burn tick faster.

cooldown reduction make radiance burn tick faster

k nvm it doesnt work, the wiki was wrong lul http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Radiance

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What does Ember Spirit get at level 10

15% spell amp

I think veil and octarine build is viable is some games. Not sure about the radiance though. It just takes so long to farm it but nevertheless I think it is worth trying out.