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General DiscussionBattle fury AM is no more?

Battle fury AM is no more? in General Discussion
Shou

    Wtf maelstrom is a uam how can i possibly trigger 2 UNIQUE attack modifiers at the same time. Skadi and deso work now but maelstrom shud not. Thats why u dont buy maelstrom and satanic, cuz u wont get lifesteal on a lightning proc. Mana burn doesnt stack with itself so diffusal is bad. U cant even buy it against omni cuz it dont purge.

    Shou

      Purge enemies.

      L > BLACK MAGE PARTY

        It isnt a UAM anymore since 7.00

        I havent even played a game at 7.00 yet, and that was one of the first things i searched for.

        http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Maelstrom/Changelogs

        kr

          rofl if u dont go battlefury on am ur an idiot

          Shou

            Thought they only changed the fact that maelstrom/mjollnir dont proc really fast (minor changes dont even remember the exact notes) never read change from uam. Still bad tho, it had a horrible build up, and it doesnt do anything better than any other item an cud buy.

            L > BLACK MAGE PARTY

              Yeah, I just tried in a lobby, no bots no cheats just basic gold. Fastest I could farm a vlads maelstrom (in a realistic build, not just rush those 2 items (traeds etc)), it took about 12:30.

              No point of going for that build over Bfury in an ideal situation.

              evy

                Dude you have problems with your reading skills
                I never said AM is a bad fighter
                I SAID Cut was saying if you want to fight 24/7, go pick another hero
                Fighting with AM is okay, but farming while fighting only on optimal fights before 25 minutes is much more preferable

                evy

                  Isn't it kinda the opposite? You get vlad mael if you're behind and couldn't get a good BF timing
                  But then again it's still kinda suboptimal

                  Murranji

                    Last game we played against AM I went SD offlane with Axe. Easy disruption into berserker's call = dead Antimage. Given all their other lanes also lost (OD loses mid to pudge when playing at the 3.5-4k level lol) and game turned into an easy 20 minute stomp.

                    evy

                      It's those games where AM is not even close to an ideal pick
                      He'd get shat on with that draft on ANY patch

                      evy

                        Even if you give AM 2000 gold at the start he'd still probably lose the game

                        Shou

                          Axe kinda shits on any farm dependent melee carry

                          M U R D E R

                            You dont replace bf with a mjol, you go for bf and a mjol smh

                            Attack speed stacks on illusions hey

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                            evy

                              Fam
                              Moonshard
                              AM is not juggernaut who has omnislash to synergize with the lightning proc, or faceless void who has a purple ball to lock people down and spread the zaps on + permabash

                              M U R D E R

                                Yea his illusions just stack so good with AS from mjolnir as well as faster wave push and the mjolnir active. Moonshard is good but it provides you really nothing other than attack speed.

                                M U R D E R

                                  Its not my idea so dont brush it off like some ns rambling about

                                  Obvsly not the to go item but if you plan to turtle idk the specifics when to buy this on am

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                                  evy

                                    Come on man I didn't even diss you even a little bit :(

                                    fx

                                      yeah once am hit abbysal manta and bf he start snowballing pretty hard. Hes power spike start at basher and ends with you building your 6th item and shit.

                                      Shou

                                        No the power spike ends after like 5th item. By 6th item ur already falling off but still ahead. Btw if ur against megas just dont sell ur vlads (backpack it) and ur bf shud be enough. Go ac, and auras and shit.

                                        fx

                                          But his 4rd item power spike is very high though. with bf manta and abbysal you can kill like almost every hero in the game solo

                                          lm ao

                                            kr

                                              if ur against shadow demon as antimage and u can get away with it in lane, dont ksill mana break till uh ave bf yasha

                                              Magnolia

                                                When your jug went bf and mjol , u lost the game instantly

                                                Sarllo

                                                  maels and mjiolnir are not UAM anymore in 7.00 but i dont think on it can be good on AM since he needs HP to early fight.. but, now manta illu get benefit from raw AS bonuses so, i dont know.. maybe work