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Karellen

    I thought about why haven't we done something like this... so I made a thread, hopefully something comes of it.

    So basically we'll need volunteers to lend accounts with certain MMR's. We'll get 1 - 9K volunteers (9K would be a dream) to play on 1K, 2K, 3K accounts, 100 MMR accounts, etc. with over 10 - 20 games we'll see their winrates and categorize them in this post.

    It'll look a little something like this:

    2K Smurfing 1K: 59.33% winrate, 25 matches, links: www.youtube.com/smurfingvideo , www.dotabuff.com/smurfstats

    Is this kinda stuff allowed?

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      disgusting weebs

        and what would this show/prove exactly

        ywn

          i played on my 2k friends acc the other day and i can honestly say i wuoldnt lose a single game in that bracket

          Jacked

            It has already been done. Unless u have a different slant to your mmr experiment? What exactly is your hypothesis?

            Karellen

              No purpose required, just for fun. If you want a purpose and point so bad, I can list a few:

              -Modern replays, low MMR who want to climb can watch the replays and understand the game better

              -Proof that MMR is mostly working as intended

              -Statistics that we can bring up in the future, e.g. "3K's will win 70% of games in 1K, 4K's will win 90% of games in 1K" or "4K's will win 80% of games in 1K as a support" etc.

              -Future reference for those "Yeah, I'm 3k but I deserve to be 4/5K" people.

              -Prove once and for all it's not the team, how they feed, how they draft, that's the issue, but how you play.

              We can be more extensive than the other experiments, we all know Juice's experiment but we don't really have a "Support only" experiment, etc. Sure, juice played carries and won but we can also show in this experiment that it's possible to climb even as a support and whatnot.

              I'd be willing to smurf for someone to start this off.

              EDITED

                can u guess what my mmr is ? PLEASE? TY:)

                Mekarazium
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                  casual gamer

                    i have 60% winrate low 4k, 90% winrate low 3k. i lost 1 game in solo 3k because i have downs syndrome and 1 in party q clowning

                    however i was sleep deprive + extreme anger when i played on the 4k and lost 10 games almost in a row lul, next 20 games were almost straight win win win win win

                    Jacked

                      Yea it would be nice to have such data I agree.

                      Id be willing to do a 1k plays in 0k mmr experiment. What if I have 90% winrate on some heroes and 20% on others though?

                      casual gamer

                        here is my first guy, about 3.8 to 4 flat iirc

                        Shou

                          Whenever I even get a single sliver of good RNG I get buttfucked for the next 10 games. So like I win 1 game I maybe shudnt have then lose the next 5 to bs. Some of it mine. But still tilts me so hard. Can't climb for shit.

                          casual gamer

                            this was up 200 mmr, 4100 to 4300 IIRC. made a huge problem for myself by tilting and throwing about 9 (some semi tough) matches

                            Gazz   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                              I'd like to contribute.

                              One time, I pilot one of my friends account to do a charm prediction. That account is bout 2400mmr (I'm a mid 3k).

                              So I pick one of my hero and the best hero in that bracket (imo), which is Alchemist (my alche has a avg 888gpm 680xpm on 27 matches, which is good i think).

                              As I remember, on his 2 charms, I won 6 out of 7 games. One lose is when one of my teammate rage quit (but we almost win that fight. Lol)

                              So in conclussion I think, a mid 3k can win bout 60-70% matches on mid 2k bracket. A 1k mmr difference makes impact.

                              Now, I wonder if a carry player like TripleSteal or Cookie pilot a mid 2k player?

                              casual gamer

                                heres 2.9 to 3.2

                                hope somebodys interested in this lol. you asked for it

                                Pl4cid

                                  100% winrate for 9k smurfing :V

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                                  casual gamer

                                    3k is about a million times ezier than 4k. 4ks have just enough brain cells to possibly disrupt whatever im doing

                                    Karellen

                                      Here's a friend's account:



                                      I say 85% winrate because I afked in a lot of games due to toxic teammates who don't deserve to win tbh. This data kinda sucks though because it's a mixture of 3 digit MMR games starting from 200, to 1k party games, up to 2.7k solo games etc.

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                                      casual gamer

                                        i think if i spammed slark i could win every single 3k game, with 0 or close to 0 exceptions

                                        Karellen

                                          Basically how it looks when you play in 3 digit MMR games to 1k:




                                          Dem1se.終焉

                                            Pretty sure ive already done this experiment most of the time its like playing against bots lol and some times i throw for the luls xD

                                            Jacked

                                              Pray tell JD why u lost that morphling game.

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                                              Jacked

                                                Just a reminder that zeros winrate with me in 2k party bracket is 50%

                                                Dem1se.終焉

                                                  CAuse of ur plays i cringe lul and also ddos

                                                  casual gamer

                                                    i lost the morph game by playing like a 3k

                                                    Jacked
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                                                      EmotionalDrift

                                                        @OP Something similar but not related to smurfing was already organised and maked a really good point.

                                                        If you are interested check here: http://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2016-02-08-organize-a-highskill-vs-lowskill-match

                                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2016-02-17-highskill-vs-lowskill-1k-vs-5k-match-video-with-cast

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                                                        mentally handicapped

                                                          nice two years ago, cant wait to see his progress now

                                                          mentally handicapped

                                                            damn that artwork screenshot and profile picture is on fire, teach me sempai

                                                            I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                              http://www197.lunapic.com/editor/ > effects > blend two images

                                                              you need to find a way to crop out the background in order to blend it, i use the poor mans method of opening powerpoint and using the remove background feature, or you can also find images online with background removed already

                                                              mentally handicapped

                                                                are you serious about that like share sub? gonna do that for real if you werent lmaoing

                                                                thanks

                                                                I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                  go ahead

                                                                  disgusting weebs

                                                                    u can remove bg via powerpoint?
                                                                    holy fuck i cropped my shit manually all the time

                                                                    I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                      the feature is pretty weak, if you just dump a random image and use the background cropper you might get poor results i think
                                                                      what i did was i used this
                                                                      https://clippingmagic.com/
                                                                      but that thing isnt free, you need to pay to download the image
                                                                      so what you do is you take a screenshot of what you finished cropping, then you upload that image into a powerpoint and use the remove background feature
                                                                      idk tho im a noob still maybe wht im doing isnt good
                                                                      and maybe you should just pirate photoshop and use that

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                                                                      disgusting weebs

                                                                        idk i just use paint.net without plugins and i'm pretty satisfied with my meming game

                                                                        I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                          which site is that can u link it

                                                                          mentally handicapped

                                                                            is there a steam guide for this?

                                                                            I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                              no but theres a steam guide for getting your artwork + screenshot showcase to sync with your background
                                                                              https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=299701202

                                                                              mentally handicapped

                                                                                ty lmao

                                                                                disgusting weebs

                                                                                  it's not a sire it's an image editing software
                                                                                  http://www.getpaint.net/index.html
                                                                                  it's free, simple and has enough functionality for u to do most of the stuff u'd need without flooding ur screen with 573587239 features when u just need to i.e. crop a picture and resize it for ur avatar

                                                                                  I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                                    thx bookmarked

                                                                                    Riguma Borusu

                                                                                      I've lost some sub 2k games I've played in a party with some people, because I could not get used to how bad everyone is. But after a few games I have a constant 75%+ winrate and games are really easy.

                                                                                      mentally handicapped

                                                                                        ah fuck my current profile bg is shit for blending, the artwork is awesome fml

                                                                                        I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                                          spent 20 bucks trying to craft this, and failed
                                                                                          http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/753/495990-Maple%20and%20sea
                                                                                          im so sad right now

                                                                                          BSJ. LGD

                                                                                            ill do it, but with techies only

                                                                                            Beks

                                                                                              well im playing friend acc 6 or 7 days of play i boosted him 500 mmr ..so ez in 1k 2k ..
                                                                                              http://www.dotabuff.com/players/218719262

                                                                                              mentally handicapped

                                                                                                can i add you? im only level 12 i would like to di the artwork thing

                                                                                                I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                                                  u need leve 20