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Tips on how to win on dire in General Discussion
Jacked

    Rigged match making confirmed. 59% winrate on dire, 167 matches.

    67madafkn% winrate on radiant, only 128 matches. If this is not an obvious skew I dono what is.

    Ok so valve is trying to make me lose more games. How do I win more on dire? This is serious question. Don't say roshan.

    Arena.Gosu

      aw, same problem. radiant: 159 match - 67.30% winrate. Dire: 156 match - 53.85% winrate. it's more ez to win on radiant =,=

      Jacked

        ^ at least valve is not forcing u to play on dire side

        AoS.UnlicencedInquisitor

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X31K6jammH0

          A video that could explain it al little

          tl;dw

          Your team descides subconciously what is better for the team. For excample taking rosh or taking their t3 tower

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          1000 xpm

            wow u are right 62,9% wr on radiant side, and only 62% on dire side. i hope this will get patched soon

            Oldman

              Radiant - 1 505 matches - 55,15 %

              Dire - 1 672 matches - 47,91 %

              Sure its easier to play on radiant, dont know why though. Maybe its easier to defend?

              miekuah-P

                Next patch: Reworked map layout into symmectrical between sides

                Added option to rotate camera 180 if on dire side(just like radiant view in dire team

                Reworked roshan position. Players must breach roshan portal by pushing the gate that located on both sides. The roshan location cannot be affected by some global skills

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                sisyphus

                  I've always won more on dire but I don't know why

                  Kubalionzzale

                    I always win more on Dire....

                    1000 xpm

                      if u check dotabuff stats for fractions u can see that all heroes have a higher win percentage on radiant side. however on the pro scene the dire side has a higher win rate. because patches aim to balance the pro scene we have to deal with it, or we have to improve ourselves to pro level.

                      here is an article that explains why: http://read.navi-gaming.com/en/team_news/why_dire_stronger_than_radiant

                      Jacked

                        What's interesting is that if u do really well on radiant u end up getting less games in it. So anyone got any tips

                        saving private RTZ

                          well until recent changes, radiant safelane used to be safer and offlane was easier. Also small things like the midcamp and hard camp being closer to the midlane on Radiant, thus easier to stack and farm them, same for ancients.

                          wait for me

                            The real reason is dire is spooky. The night is darker on the dire side(i feel).
                            Funny thing is, it's easier to farm on the dire safe lane amd off lane. However, most players have better winrate on the radiant.
                            Dire is spooky, I'm telling you guys.

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                            Lets do Science

                              The biggest reason that winning on Radiant is easier is due to a couple of things.
                              A) When you're on Dire the UI is totally all up in your grill and makes you lose some precious information on screen.
                              B) Most people tend to do things like goofing around / practicing lhs n stuff on Radiant side cuz its the default.
                              While you can't entirely diminish the downside of being on Dire, you can massively reduce it via playing on it more often ie: play some bot matches, lhing practices, ect on Dire side. Once you get a feel for what you have and don't have, it becomes much easier to play effectively.

                              Dire Wolf

                                Looking at lifetime stats is deceiving cus radiant used to have tangible advantages. I don't think it does anymore, dire has better jungle layout, better rosh access, mids are about equal now, dire ancient position is further from main jungle but easy access to the other jungle camp while radiant has to run around the cliff. One big advantage though is radiant offlane seems so much closer to that hard camp to farm if they want to.

                                But in my last 3 months, 19-19 on dire, 20-16 on radiant. I don't think that's enough of a sample size.

                                casual gamer

                                  I have 260 game sample size this month:

                                  52.4% dire, 54% radiant

                                  I'm trying to be more conscious of when my team can rosh, ping them say let's rosh now we killed 1, etc

                                  also a lot more when I'm on radiant I feel like a risky rosh can be a complete disaster because they can blink from high ground in 2.5 direction and have a ton of room to maneuver

                                  consistency

                                    i win more with ursa on dire than on radiant , so the article thing about you have to kill roshan 2-3 times when u play dire to get an advantage in that article is legit. 64% with radiant 66% dire ursa

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                                    Henrijs

                                      Dire 1,667
                                      52.97%
                                      Radiant 1,577
                                      52.31%

                                      Doesn't seem to affect me, though I like radiant side a bit more if I jungle. Camps has better lay-out.
                                      Pushing seems to be easier from dire side though, idk why when me and my team push we just never stop on dire side, but on radiant side we just eventually are scared to push.

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                                      Dire Wolf

                                        Oh man I really disagree, dire jungle has those three camps you just rotate between, radiant only has the nice two near mid. I like dire more for farming heroes/junglers and radiant a lot more if I am offlaner or mid.