General DiscussionAlchemist

Which builds you use?

Lool did not see that coming.
I looked at your item build It's pretty different actually

Yea my alch is pretty shit. If i pick him again i would just go for radiance manta octrine build. And maybe try your build
^lmao.

nearly everyone in games i play/see, goes for the same build

mid
bottle => brown boot => armlet => radiance => bots => manta = octarine = ac (or shivas). u r six slotted 25-30 minutes into the game unless something goes terribly wrong.

I don't think manta/shivas is good for alche.
Buying shadowblade is nicer ganking lanes early with your dank armlet,sange&yasha.
But you know radiance/octarine core alche is pretty solid

thats the optimal way to play alchemist considering all the ither 9 players are somehow good, i suppose

Manta is purely so you can farm faster and more. I don't think as alch you want to be ganking lanes, his strength comes from farming and getting ahead very quickly then you end the game.

Any time you waste ganking with him you're not farming, losing stacks of greed and potentially not even being successful with you gank. This does change however if your other lanes are stuggling.

How does one farm faster with manta?
Didn't they change the greed passive thingie on illusions?

^
Yes but you still get the normal amount of gold just not the bonus
You can farm 3 spots at the same time and you are really asking this question LUL

^Will try it lets see how fast my farm will become

Btw I see you are fixing games with invoker
Do valve say anything about that?
Im thinking about doing this kind of stuff since a lot people already abusing ranked mmr

lol aimstrong doesnt give up that easily
road to 30% wr, huh?

It should be going up to 40% actually, I'm not sharing data since I hit 3k again lul

most alchs ive seen go soul ring instead of bottle
dunno if its better or worse

I think bottle is better because you need to control the rune as alchemist (rune > lane)
i dont say that you cant control rune if you build soul ring its just bottle give you more survivability at least till you reach lv 6

I get octarine cus his ult is almost always up and it syncs well then with manta, which syncs well with radiance, but I fucking hate that build myself. I like a battlefury for farming so go like boots, armlet, battlefury, then with an abyssal you'll never die to right clicks, bkb if needed, blink or shadow blade to init, AC if room.

I mean have you ever fought an alch with armlet and vanguard min ~15 and ult up? He literally cannot die.

soul ring > boots > armlet > radiance > BoT > maelstorm > basher > moon shard then later mjollnir and abyssal... mst try this build.. ez pub stomping.. consume MS for situational items like MKB , HoT

Stout > Radiance > Phase Boots or travel > Soul Ring

(Always stout 1st but other can swap order)

My situational

Blademail, Heart, Mjollnir (Good combo with BM, Moonshard, Assault, Abyssal. Hardly Scepter or BKB.

Note. Radiance can sell late game when I want new 6th item or no reason to chase enemy to death with Radiance.

phase, radi, manta, mjlyonir, 2 item situasional

I love NS talking about item builds.

It u dont want normal oct/manta build u can try more ganking build:

rush radi and BoT, then Silver Edge or Blink dagger, BKB, AC + dmg item (mkb or deadalus) + Moon Shard and scepter later

sick song