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5THLEGION

    I tried a big boy alchemis build It's pretty insane man treads/armlet/sange&yasha /HoT/-armlet+daedalus/assault cuirass.
    Which builds you use?

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      Which builds you use?

      treads/armlet/sange&yasha /HoT/-armlet+daedalus/assault cuirass.

      5THLEGION

        Lool did not see that coming.
        I looked at your item build It's pretty different actually

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        LeHowl James

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            Yea my alch is pretty shit. If i pick him again i would just go for radiance manta octrine build. And maybe try your build
            ^lmao.

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            TripleSteal-

              nearly everyone in games i play/see, goes for the same build

              mid
              bottle => brown boot => armlet => radiance => bots => manta = octarine = ac (or shivas). u r six slotted 25-30 minutes into the game unless something goes terribly wrong.

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              5THLEGION

                I don't think manta/shivas is good for alche.
                Buying shadowblade is nicer ganking lanes early with your dank armlet,sange&yasha.
                But you know radiance/octarine core alche is pretty solid

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                TripleSteal-

                  thats the optimal way to play alchemist considering all the ither 9 players are somehow good, i suppose

                  FlightOfGrey

                    Manta is purely so you can farm faster and more. I don't think as alch you want to be ganking lanes, his strength comes from farming and getting ahead very quickly then you end the game.

                    Any time you waste ganking with him you're not farming, losing stacks of greed and potentially not even being successful with you gank. This does change however if your other lanes are stuggling.

                    5THLEGION

                      How does one farm faster with manta?
                      Didn't they change the greed passive thingie on illusions?

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                      LeHowl James

                        ^
                        Yes but you still get the normal amount of gold just not the bonus
                        You can farm 3 spots at the same time and you are really asking this question LUL

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                        5THLEGION

                          ^Will try it lets see how fast my farm will become

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                          5THLEGION

                            Btw I see you are fixing games with invoker
                            Do valve say anything about that?
                            Im thinking about doing this kind of stuff since a lot people already abusing ranked mmr

                            TripleSteal-

                              lol aimstrong doesnt give up that easily
                              road to 30% wr, huh?

                              LeHowl James

                                It should be going up to 40% actually, I'm not sharing data since I hit 3k again lul

                                arin

                                  most alchs ive seen go soul ring instead of bottle
                                  dunno if its better or worse

                                  Lunatic

                                    I think bottle is better because you need to control the rune as alchemist (rune > lane)
                                    i dont say that you cant control rune if you build soul ring its just bottle give you more survivability at least till you reach lv 6

                                    Dire Wolf

                                      I get octarine cus his ult is almost always up and it syncs well then with manta, which syncs well with radiance, but I fucking hate that build myself. I like a battlefury for farming so go like boots, armlet, battlefury, then with an abyssal you'll never die to right clicks, bkb if needed, blink or shadow blade to init, AC if room.

                                      I mean have you ever fought an alch with armlet and vanguard min ~15 and ult up? He literally cannot die.

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                                      Field Marshal Asim Muneer

                                        soul ring > boots > armlet > radiance > BoT > maelstorm > basher > moon shard then later mjollnir and abyssal... mst try this build.. ez pub stomping.. consume MS for situational items like MKB , HoT

                                        Tung Tung Tung Sahur

                                          Stout > Radiance > Phase Boots or travel > Soul Ring

                                          (Always stout 1st but other can swap order)

                                          My situational

                                          Blademail, Heart, Mjollnir (Good combo with BM, Moonshard, Assault, Abyssal. Hardly Scepter or BKB.

                                          Note. Radiance can sell late game when I want new 6th item or no reason to chase enemy to death with Radiance.

                                          MID OR ALL MID

                                            phase, radi, manta, mjlyonir, 2 item situasional

                                            Oldman

                                              I love NS talking about item builds.

                                              It u dont want normal oct/manta build u can try more ganking build:

                                              rush radi and BoT, then Silver Edge or Blink dagger, BKB, AC + dmg item (mkb or deadalus) + Moon Shard and scepter later

                                              lm ao

                                                sick song