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General Discussion@ triplesteal

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 INV MENYA LP PARTY

    left without, right with agha.

    arin

      left without, right with agha.

      wasnt mkb dealing +80 dmg instead of +66 back then?

      Â INV MENYA LP PARTY

        dunno, but even if u take 400 dmg away it'd still be worth it for true strike

        ywn

          SILLY BLOODTHORN 2016

          Story Time

            Assuming WR has scepter and phase boots (so normal damage is about 140 without any additional items) we can count the damage from mkb vs daedalus:

            mkb damage = 140 +66+0.35*160=262
            daedalus damage = (81+ 140) *1.36=301

            So the difference is about 15% which is not nothing.

            But mealstrom would give:
            maelstrom damage=140+24+120*4(targets to chain lightning)*0.25= 284 ,
            which is higher than Mkb, but Maelstrom is only 2800 gold, so you could buy also Crystalis making the damage =(140+24 +30 )*1.15+120*4*0.25= 343.

            I do not count the attack speed, because i assume wind goes ultimate with 4 attacks per second anyway, and we can neglect 15 attack speed of mbk or 25 speed of maelstrom.

            PS Where is lifesteal in your team?

            Story Time

              http://devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/ to settle the arguement on items.

              HartzFear

                Does Cw have enough man to calculate diffu right?
                Nvm but diffu would have much more dmg on int heros. No?

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                Â INV MENYA LP PARTY

                  why would you care about maelstrom hitting 4 targets? we're talking about single target dps - how often do you see your wr in games hitting 4 fucking heroes with her maelstrom? especially often, so that you can not neglect the 3 more targets that get hit by maelstrom?

                  MangoMarkus

                    bashes from mkb are magic damage though and magic damage is, as far as i know, inferior to physical damage in late game (?)

                    Â INV MENYA LP PARTY

                      ^actually not, because ur magic resistance will stay the same throughout the game (lets say apart from you building hood of defiance or some shit, or your teammates using glimmer on you/building pipe for your mkb), so there will always be a 25% resistance against mkb - throughout the game people will gain armor (either by agility gain, vlads, acs etc), so physical dmg becomes less the longer the game goes.

                      the issue is probably that you might lose because of bkbs - but even then your mkb procs shouldnt matter that much (since you'd have a team), and if you're going solo you actually have to land a shackle to kill someone (so bkb doesnt matter)

                      MangoMarkus

                        ^magic resistance may stay the same all the time, but physical damage will also stop getting decreased (when carry is 6slot (except for ac on teammate or smth)), also bashes from mkb will not get amplified by anything, the crit though also increases your other damage item's damage, well because of bonus damage getting counted into crit, so late game daedalus is better, until your enemy has evasion(*), then it is ofc far worse

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                        EtoroAbasi

                          cuz triple steal is never gud at all?

                          TripleSteal-

                            ^this guy knows