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General DiscussionHow do I improve on Timbersaw?

How do I improve on Timbersaw? in General Discussion
SirSwirll

    I feel like I'm doing a lot but hero damage in the end is low to my standard.

    http://www.dotabuff.com/players/194713313/matches?hero=timbersaw

    Look at my last 3 games because well the others are like a year ago and could honestly be considered that I didn't play them.

    my biggest problem with him is being able to push. getting towers wins games in the end

    TripleSteal-

      ur itemization sucks a bit

      aether lens is barely ever optimal, and certainly not a to-go build.
      early octarine is useless, it can be considered as 5th-6th slot, but not as 2nd.
      try glimmer right after bs if you are losing, and aghs if you are winning. BM is good in any case if it works against enemy lineup.
      dont get blink untill you get used to the hero.
      lategame default itemization is shivas/hex.
      lotus and linkens are optional.

      TripleSteal-

        you dont push towers, your team does. ur job is to run around the map and kill people, creating space and establishing domination.

        Rektdalf the White

          Timber isnt the one who should be pushing towers, you need to have another hero in your team for that, so if your team already lacks pushing power dont pick him. Timber is great for outpushing lanes, but thats about it.

          SirSwirll

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EAybFyXS08 I followed this build since it is the best I had at the time.

            SirSwirll

              In my games I generally try to pick so I can wipe and push really well since I don't die to much and do a lot in fights

              Rektdalf the White

                Octarine and lens are not really core items, octarine is pretty much late game extension item, also many situational items from that build should be core imo such as blink shiva, hex or agha.

                TripleSteal-

                  this guide is meh

                  Rektdalf the White

                    Always pick what you need in the game, do not always follow some itemization build, except bloodstone thats like core core item. You need disable on hero thats hard to pin down - hex. You need more dmg - agha, you need to cripple attack and movement spd of their cores and be more tanky - shiva, blink adds another dimension to your mobility, etc.

                    chocopie

                      when u get dag make sure u have hands like a pro tinker has(but slower)

                      SirSwirll

                        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2407040550 losing mmr because of a DC is so fucking unfair

                        arin

                          why do so many people on high mmrs make lens tho

                          TripleSteal-

                            who does it besides waga?
                            this item is so super situational

                            Dog

                              I build blink first before bloodstone. Ik, needs work but I could feel a potential spammable playstyle out of this. I might even do more mid timbers next.

                              Feed

                                Lul timbersaw is made to punish heroes, not to push towers.

                                Soyaaa_

                                  Any timber guides on utube?

                                  rick_zai

                                    well, timber 1 of my flavor hero http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2405791346 (dual lane with bb offlane) , i build blood stone > bm > blink > actarine , just abt to buy hex or scepter then game end
                                    i think timber just a normal hero unlike tinker,invoker n meepo that need more skill ( fast hand n good control ) , basically u do good in him when u good in general ( skill , accuracy , map awareness, farming skill ), just spam skill ard the war , target the right hero ( which out of position or kill support 1st )

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                                      H2ODelirious

                                        The irony is I always do the tower pushing like one of this http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2392074567
                                        Idk, even I create space a lot for them to push other lane they still farming in jungle and 20 min game become 40 min game #LifeIn2k

                                        H2ODelirious

                                          @ft.Rekt Maybe you should moving there. Idk if this even a question.

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                                            Okay, I'm satisfied

                                            Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                              Miracle gets Aether Lens. It's just a comfort item I think. I don't like it either, but if you feel like you will hit much more Chakrams with a longer range, just go for it.

                                              SirSwirll

                                                relying on others to push a tower is a very hard thing to do. that's my problem with timbersaw right now

                                                Hatsune Miku

                                                  aether lens is fun since i dont maxed out timber chain and that chakram range ez pz

                                                  KingBeeF

                                                    People need to stop playing timbersaw. Such a shit hero... Play more Slark.

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                                                    Seven-

                                                      ive always thought timber was "blink or lens" and i ended up going lens a lot but im normal skill so what do i know

                                                      i guess ill try blink timber for a while and see what i get

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                                                      Crimson Sky

                                                        Nah on NS just rush BS into BM then make sure you're in the middle of teamfights. In NS people die to blademail frequently and timber is great for punishing people trying to escape on low hp.

                                                        Standard build really would be BS / Blade / Shiva's / Hex (if it goes that long) I wouldn't worry too much about blink until you master the more basic aspects of him.

                                                        PS: I'm also NS. So wut do I know lul.