General Discussion

General DiscussionWhy is doto brutal to new players?

Why is doto brutal to new players? in General Discussion
Bad Intentions

    Is it becos of the innate competitiveness of the community? The overall complexity of the game? The vast racial and cultural differences? The so called 'meta'? Or is it just plainly catered to really advanced players?

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      Bad Intentions

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        жирный

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            Innate competitiveness bullshit.

            It's just that valve never looks at reports and nobody ever uses the comm abuse report, so people keep abusing comm.

            Valve needs to tell people to actually use the comm abuse report button to report comm abuse. Not trashtalk, there's nothing wrong with that. But death threats and other stuff have no place in a video game, it's fucking messed up to wish death on someone for a game.

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            Chadzpyre

              New players don't know to pick omni and OD every game yet, thats why they have hard times.

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              M1YONG PAPLO

                because so much smurfs

                dunce

                  Smurfs
                  I recently tried play with 2 new comers so we had 2 ultra noobs and 2 try hard smurfs on the other side

                  Kobby

                    The game is already old, and new players never have an easy time in and old game. Its the same story over and over again, starcraft, cs, etc.

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                      It's not that, it's the fact that they match parties with solos, honestly. Volvo come on, give us an option "never match us with parties when playing solo pls thx bye"

                      Dire Wolf

                        Cus the mechanics are complicated and you have to be familiar with every hero or you won't know what to do. Like vs a timber saw offlane if you don't know not to stand by trees or you think you can kill a witch dr and you dive him and he flasks you and your lane partner under tower and you are perms stunned and die. Tons of awareness required too like when to defend and trade towers and push, it's all subtle but adds up to a lot. It takes at least 100 games to grasp these concepts.

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                          It's okay to be difficult.

                          But it's not ok to have a solo player matched with a 4 man queue and get raged at, called horrible slurs and get death threats because youre playing bad because they took your best hero and now you're playing a hero you only have 6 games with.

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                          Banana

                            Because when you need help in that game and you ask your teammates for advice...

                            95% of the time you just get flamed for asking instead of getting advice.

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                              Or they give you shit advice and ask why you're not following it.

                              Cappa

                                So much to learn in this game. That is all.

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                                  The game being difficult to learn doesn't give smurfs the right to make 4 man parties and then raging at the 5th player who's a newbie....

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                                    mayeb because theres 108 damn heroes with complex spells and interactions you gotta learn about?

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                                        mayeb because theres 108 damn heroes with complex spells and interactions you gotta learn about?

                                        As I said, difficulty of the game doesn't give anyone a right to be toxic ot others for not playing well and being new.

                                        yung griphook

                                          The learning curve is so steep. It's the most demanding game you'll ever play, in that it requires 100 percent focus, thought, and action / reaction to have a CHANCE to win.

                                          But it it's defense, it's also what I think makes the game so addicting. I have been playing video games all of my life, and never had I played a game like dota where the thought of purely improving and getting better at the game is what keeps bringing me back. It's extremely engaging and that's why I like it. Now If only the community wasn't so toxic...

                                          Rocket

                                            Play limited heroes. Breath of fresh air. No-one flames, people can ask sensible questions, no smurfs.

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                                              No I played limited heroes it was all smurfs looking for a free stomp...

                                              Dire Wolf

                                                People aren't toxic cus u are new dude, they're toxic cus u suck and play a greifing hero like riki and buy the worst items. They flame you because you cause them to lose.

                                                Plus you can't call yourself new anymore. You have 143 riki matches. My most played hero is 94. You should be competent with a hero after 143 matches.

                                                Just face it your play style ruins games. And the people aren't good enough to carry you so they get mad and blame you and say oh if only I didn't have this idiot on my team I'd be 2k mmr.

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                                                  i have 5 smurfs bro

                                                  The ItaJob

                                                    Smurfs will close door to new players!!

                                                    Kryptnyt

                                                      It's actually not so bad for new players. They just need a mentor to bring them into the game, show them the mute button, good to go

                                                      bluejack287

                                                        Which has a steeper learning curve....Dota or Dwarf Fortress?

                                                        Kryptnyt

                                                          Dwarf Fortress is literally in a mountain, you can't get much steeper than that.

                                                          bluejack287

                                                            Not to mention, sometimes the mountain is home to an eyeless, fire-breathing, metal-plated spider that kills everyone.