General DiscussionHow to OD?

Well, whatever you build, dont build scepter. At the very least not as your first major item.

build rod of atos into dagger, then moon shard bkb and int stuff like hex or octarine. best lane is mid, reks almost anything (except maybe viper and lone druid)

dagger atos is almost always legit as first items. cuz of astral 4 sec and your dagger has 3 sec cd. so you can dive as fuck and then astral yourself and dagger out most of the time.

Orchid is better than hex? Why? I have never played od just askin'

that maybe works in low priority, kappa

orchid is good early but its for sure not better than hex, as later in game its useless when people buy bkb or manta. it gives good regen and some atk speed, but od doesnt really need the regen since he has his aura and also it doesnt help you catch people which can be a big problem for od.. thats why i prefer rod of atos. drums gives good stats, and some speed boost but thats why i buy dagger and therefore dont need it, prefer to get bigger items right away. you could buy shiva instead of hex and octarine if you have to tank up and you dont need an extra disable at that moment

low prio master you have some nice od games there, mucho wins kappa :D

Won't Orchid fall off? Drums blink hex, situational bkb/linens into moon shard? I don't know tbh.

Max E and Q first, rod of atos, scythe, moon shard

yes drums blink hex is good, though some games wont go as smoothly and you will have trouble farming a hex quickly so better get rod to transition in mid game, then hex. BKB almost always a must just to be able to hit hit hit. linkens is good/situational. MOON SHARD hands off best item on od, but never get it first. at least rod hex shiva or some int shit before.

that's why I don't get orchid, it's great is vs a hero with an escape like qop, or am, but ususally you can blow those guys up in a sheep duration as well.

treads drums blink

followed by whatever you want and/or mashing your face on the keyboard

I don't think orchid is as good as hex, because unlike most orchid carriers you don't have a form of initiation, you just have to walk up to them which won't happen most of the time. Now you could get blink, but that delays your window of opportunity as you want to get orchid before defensive items. You end up going hex 99% of the time because you get it after blink and usually it is better at that point in the game because the enemy can have BKB's or euls.

Treads drums veil blink orchid bkb scythe

i believe the best way to od is to take a minimum of 10x more than the required dosage

@SOSLICK22 whats the reason i dont build scepter

It is a dogshit item that only gives you 300 damage on your ult which has a SUPER long cooldown and you are not going to hit 5 man ults every fight. You will just do far more damage with items that let you stay in the fight, right clicking, or items that disable the enemy hero.

You are spending 4200 gold to get a possible 300 damage nuke on your ult, a little bit of tankyness and a little bit of damage on your right click. Drums, veil, rod of atos, even a soul booster are all so much better than scepter.