General DiscussionTop 3 heroes of Shanghai Major

puppeys doom & enigma are amazing

thinking of watching him jungle doom and trying out something similar

for offlane & jungle doom is OP hero enigma too when puupey use it

* Slark
* Invoker
* Nature's Prophet

So how did Arteezy's sven suddenly spark up sven meta? I didn't watch the match though.

One of the many things that pro meta has is Blink Dagger, someone should tell the people that it doesn't automatically become fucking meta to pick up a S&Y and Blink Dagger because you saw it on Arteezy.

INVOKER
SVEN
NP

I think, Sven was outperformed by Ursa and Slark.

Not sure if this is correct stats, but 50% winrate on Sven seems legit:
http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/4266/heroes?date=patch_6.86f&hero=&region=&duration=

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sort it by KDA to see true power of the forest

^Zero deaths FTW! =)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2195561641
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2184275180

ursa, invo, earth spirit (banned like every game)

slark invoker NP

I was pretty impressed with slark, od, enigma and dark seer. Sven did normal Sven things but feel like he's just the new juggernaut, a melee pros are comfortable with not necessarily that strong

I think sven was strong for a brief moment when people didn't remember how to play against sven. After a while he was getting kited heavily. I mean, EG basically lost 2 games in 2 different series getting kited by a NP.

When I saw how Sven stuck in the trees, my thought was: mb it's good idea to buy BF (even on Sven) just to counter these damn sprouts.

^^^ OR they could draft a tree destroyer like Windranger, timber etc.

or the cud buy force staff on supports

Drow ranger, Drow ranger , Drow ranger

Nature Prophet
Faceless Void
Invoker

"I think sven was strong for a brief moment when people didn't remember how to play against sven. After a while he was getting kited heavily. I mean, EG basically lost 2 games in 2 different series getting kited by a NP."

Definitely. He only really owned games where some support setup the kills for him, which is part of why dark seer was so good cus of vacuum for all those sven picks. I would've loved to see EG go magnus over pugna that last game. Probably would've won with another grouping ult and no way magnus gets picked off as much mid as pugna.

"^^^ OR they could draft a tree destroyer like Windranger, timber etc."

They did actually, vacuum kills trees, but artezy was so far in front of his team. But buying raipers was just dumb anyway, heart + daedulus is close to as much dmg with ult up. Rapiers aren't that good without a crit or aoe modifier.

Invoker
Ursa
Slark

Beastmaster, Furion, and OD stuck out a lot for me.

Saw a lot more BM than I thought I would.