General DiscussionHow bad am I?

your mmr reflects your skill pretty accurately. most people who play dota intuitively believe that they are better than other people in their games, but it has nothing to do with reality; it's just all about human psychology.
if you are placed in sub 1k and you win less than 60% of games there in long run, then you belong there.

After playing tons of MOBA ranked games in general, only you know how good you truly are, just keep playing and eventually you will get to whatever rank you want to be at.

If you will ever consider starting a new account please give me this account.

On topic: Well, the best chance to know, play more ranked games, and as triple steal said, if you are better than that you should win at least 60% of games

how u do that rly

do u have like 1 arm or down syndrome ?

@mentalfruit the mighty

You're dumb, you are part of the reason why everyone has dunning kruger syndrome on this game. There's no such thing as knowing how good you are, it was just recently i learned how fucking average i was after watching a certain online video, and watching an insane 6K friend play. Everyone has these awakening's when they realize they have a lot more to learn, apparently you haven't had one.

@RoberttzBlack, don't take his advice, the "only you know how good you are" , the problem with that is that everyone apparently "knows they belong in 5/6K. "

They also know that they are always the best one on their team every game automatically, and it's THEM that's stuck with the trash team mates, despite having shit stats every game, oh, it couldn't possibly be their fault.

Yorkey you're nice

@Kappa is my waifu
What is special about my acc?

hey fellow sub 1k. just keep playing huehuehue.

pls let me play on 550 mmr

Yo op add me i wanna watch some sub 1k mmr games.

You have a good wr going on man and will definitely move up in rank, just keep on playing and prove your friends wrong!

Nothing really, I just wanna see how the games feel at -1k mmr, nothin personal, just pure curiosity

I had no idea 500 mmr was possible

Just keep playing bro

You guys know that 500mmr is worth more than 1-4k

yeah, especially 1 mmr acccount. U ARE RANKED NUMBER 1 XD

I don't think they can say you deserve 500 mmr when you calibrated 7 months ago and BARELY play ranked but played many normal match making games. Especially at 500 mmr where games are more a lottery of "who is going to get the guy feeding couriers this time." I am sure you have learnt quite a lot of dota since you calibrated.

It's also very easy for someone who is 4k to say hey if you were deserving of a higher mmr you would win most of your games. Then they go on a 1k account and boost someones account by 500 mmr and are all like "I told you so."

I want someone who is 2k mmr to play in 500 mmr and see how they do and then say they told you so because I can promise you now a 2k player would have a lot harder time of it if they don't know how to dominate despite their team feeding ALOT.

.......But either way you need to get out of there and the only way is learning how to/improving. I was there and managed to finally hit 2k while also having 400-700 ping in the average game (I can't stand EU server pings now --> I don't know how I did before) and I did to be fair improve on the way I played the game buuuut I still think I didn't deserve to be there at the time I started playing ranked. I just didn't know how to win games when someone went 0-10-0 somewhere after 10 minutes.

OP is lying. He is definitely not 750 MMR looking at his games. He is probably 2.5-3k MMR. People on Dotabuff are so naive. There is no way people at such rating build decent items & have decent last hits in the game.

Your WR in the last 6 months is 60%.

So no, you do not belong in 750 mmr.

But if you truly are at 750 mmr with 60% WR. You will probably only make it to ~1500 before you level off.

@supercaio I've played with someone who had 1 MMR I'll have to go find the match

@badintentions I'm at just below 700 MMR if you want to see some games let me know ;)

@op first off how did 3 heroes end the game with 0 items a few games ago?O_o

Second off down here I feel like game mechanics and sense are the main barriers to success, work on last hitting work on map awareness ..... Knowing when to attack and when to back off cause to many people are missing from the map etc

However you've brought your win rate up to 60% so maybe you don't belong in this trench and are starting to climb

People always talk about improving your MMR. No-one ever mentions the insane grind involved.

I calibrated 18 months ago at ~2.2k and have played ~100 ranked games with 55% win rate.
This has given me +250 mmr and taken me to ~2.4k mmr.

Now, let's say I learn at a decent enough rate to maintain this 55% winrate.
Hypothetically it would take another ~650 SOLO ranked games to get to 4k.
At which point i would still be considered trash by a lot of players.

Time invested to increase e-peen size = not worth.
Leave me in normal skill, thanks

you should sell your account. its worth more than some random 3k 4k account

^what he said

Yo strat cheese, definitely man, add me so I can watch them games.

Yo strat cheese, definitely man, add me so I can watch them games.

you prolly are bad but it shouldn't matter. MMR is just a number and you're playing dota for fun, pick heroes you like and you'll improve automatically. If you wanna improve faster, go watch streams, especially stuff like envy's stream. Also if tards try to boast how mmr is literally jesus tell them u have biblical relations with their mum.

Time invested to increase mmr is a reflection of how fast you learn, Xero. That's not really the game's fault

I agree with Xero though. The +\-25 simply isn't fast enough. The grind is hard. Especially because those "20% unwinnable" games are actually winnable because you're more skilled than them, but it comes with a great mental cost carrying retards.

The system needs to move you faster depending on your streaks/stats/etc

It would also kill boosters as they will dump MMR much faster. 6k to 3k in 25 games instead of like 400

^ i actually like this idea. I'm not crying or smth, i know that i belong where i am, but i think if you are on a winning streak for example you should get more. I think will help people which lets say, calibrated at 2k, then played only Normal MM, and when they think they improved drastically, they find out its a bit hard to grind so much MMR.

I mean even if you go with 100% winrate, with +25 every game, from 2k to 4k its like 4 games for 100 MMR. so you need 80 games to climb 2k mmr in the best scenario. And anyway its not gonna happen, as we suppose the player true Skill range is around 4k, at some point, lets say 3.3-3.5+ he will start losing games. He might lose games even before that maybe. So lets say the first 1k mmr from 2k to 3k its eazy but then you arent gonna have a 100% winrate if you are a 4k.

@Dispassionate
Your statement is absolutely true.
However, my issue is the amount of time required, which is vastly disproportionate to the rate at which a human being can acquire knowledge and skills.

This isn't factoring in how inherently flawed individual ELO skill ratings are in an advanced team-based game. We have sites like DOTABUFF that track a huge number of individual stats per game but our apparent skill is based on a number that only tracks Win/Loss rate.

It would also encourage a lot more people to do cheese strats to inflate mmr.

To a lot of people climbing from so low the time invested to climb honestly isn't worth it. It's in times like this that I would almost advise a new account (just one) to see how life is on the other side then maybe return to your main when you feel you have enough lessons learned to improve your existing account.

OK ill make more account, thanks Havoc.