What do you mean "permaboulder"? You mean, keep kicking stones? Also, Does the Stone Remanent gets a cd reduction from his original 30 secs?
not good at all and you will most likely want to spend gold more efficient than on this item
It appears that no one in this thread has a game with ESpirit getting octarine core yet on these accounts. So on what did you base your opinions?
on pure logic and game understanding. (basics actually)
item costs too much, offers too little for es.
for snowballing there are much better items.
So far ES has only used octarine core in 3% of his games globally.
https://www.dotabuff.com/items/octarine-core
67 heroes have been more successful with octarine-core than Espirt. It looks like people have only purchased it when the game was already won or lost.
With the new changes, ES is falling more in a support-ish role. Im thinking changing the usual bottle urn treads for Guardian Greaves
4 games this patch haven't tried it seems more like a luxury snowball buy as someone said.
I will throw in I've got an addiction to medallion of courage and it's upgrade. Part of that is due to game matchups though.
i think he needs the levels even more now actually
what is your skillbuild? that long stun duration is really nice to max but u cant do kick pull roll combo anymore effectively since 2.25 stun and 2.5 silence comepletely overlaps
with the new change he cant be played as support role..
support role generally get the least lvl from the group, and he needs those lvl to maximize his stun and silences. Now he needs mid or solo offlane.
probably offlane is a must, u can't go mid unless snowball but on high brackets 4.6< that's pretty weird
gonna try octarine
My ES build now is 2-1-2 then max silence then stun. Also Octarine is retarded just by the fact you'll never farm such an item in a real game, if you get octarine you probably have won anyway.
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Hey, what do you think of octarine core on ES? I tried it one game and I find the CD reduction really awesome. You can nearly permaboulder for example. I would go typical bottle brown boots urn dagger into ocarina core. Lotus orb is occasionally good aswell but most of the time it's not worth it.
Also, what do you think of the changes? I think ES is pretty fine now that the Ult is dispellable (even Eul dispells it right?) and the sick nuke dmg from lvl 4 E is nerfed aswell. I think ES is best on midlane now.