General DiscussionWhat is the current tb build?

granted I'm not losing rax < 25 min
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brown boots-yasha-travels-manta-diffusal-skadi/butterfly stack

i call it the 500 hp build

Go fast Manta and Skadi, dont buy midas or shitty items like that. He's not that strong anymore and you have to be really efficient with item choises.

what about good ol' sny+manta build? also i recall getting drums on tb in early game....

sny and manta ias auras dont stack

no items, because you shouldn't play him

JDF8 yes they do, both on main hero as well as on the illusions. only movement speed doesnt stack with Yasha items but the att speed does.

either way its not worth it to go SnY + Manta.

Better go Zenoth build ;)

Its something like

wraith band x1, aquila x1, brown boots, yasha

BoT

Manta

Diffusal blade lvl 2

Skadi

Ethereal blade/Butterfly depending on what you need

situationally BKB or 2nd Skadi

I used to get SnY on pre-nerf tb (after the first nerf, not the last illu nerf) and it seemed pretty good if you already have bots, I wonder how viable it is now

Would you still play him the split-push way or go more fighting-oriented (building bkb, daedalus, satanic, etc. as luxuries after manta/SNY+skadi)?

Also since every hero this meta is going RoA+mom+SNY+Skadi (even on PL and Spectre), couldn't you do the same on TB (pretty standard for a tb other than mom anyways)

Ring of aquila was, is and always will be a decent pickup on TB.

Yasha is the farm accelerator part of SnY, the sange part does almost nothing for you

Skadi was always part of TB item build since it fixes lots of problems for you: gives you slowing orb, makes you more bulky and gives you a ton of mana which you'll need to spam Manta and Conjure Image.

the core item on terrorblade is quelling blade, keep it as long as possible. one of the reasons you go for early (relatively) BoT on Terrorblade whenever possible is that you need every item slot possible.

if you go for the recent build of Zenoth with Diffusal: the diffusal lvl2 (upgrade immediately) is the farming capabilities increasing item since it gives so much agility as well as gives a decent active that helps you chase or escape should you need to purge something off of you.

mana burn only works on melee illusions but it still gives 35 (!!!) dmg/attack speed and 5 armor for ranged illusions (35 agility)

I hate to say it, but I think the best build hit the repack button.

tb is the best hero

IMO best build is Treads (str) -> drums -> SnY -> Skadi
you'll have decent hp

Manta diffusal BoT is much better at pushing and farming but you'll have like 1k hp

i always go RoA, treads, drums, manta, skadi, BoT, butterfly

whats the point of going early tanky items i.e. treads-drums build on a hero that can't manfight the axe es troll jugg sb meta?
edit: look at the picks from my last game, then try substitute a core with tb, how does that even work

Cause 700 hp tb dies to 2 nukes
Tb is also weak at pushing since illusion nerf, Troll or Lycan are so much faster
So what's the point in playing a hero that needs ton of farm and he's always bad

What about skadi rush into diffusal?

the build is -repick :)

^ hes right