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explain this to me. slardar in General Discussion
whoji

    I have this friend who has a quite impressive 64% slardar winrate
    http://dotabuff.com/players/102174347

    however, if you look into each match he played as slardar, you will noticed he actually had low KDA GPM and HD/TD
    http://dotabuff.com/players/102174347/matches?hero=slardar&game_mode=&match_type=real

    This leaves me to wonder, maybe the best way to play slardar is to build him as a tanky aura carrier.

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    Ples Mercy

      best way to play slardar is to get fast blink, gank nonstop and then get tanky items and win games.

      You wont ever see slardar outcarry a legit carry if the farm and brain are the same.

      Woof Woof

        best way to build slardar is to go for what its needed in order to win a game

        Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

          no blink.. When he does lose, he loses bad. 0-11, 0-13.

          whoji

            ya. I just don't understand how he manage to get 64% winrate over 106 games. I don't believe in pure luck.

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            Woof Woof

              he would be at 50-55% if he pick him 106 games in a row

              whoji

                so if you play a specific heroes not in a row you can have higher winrate ? I got to try that on my riki ...

                Woof Woof

                  theres no way to get away from 45-55% window with x hero without having many other suffering low %

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                  whoji

                    you sounds more and more like a philosopher

                    Woof Woof

                      hopefully someone with good english can present it in more clean manner

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                      Rise

                        Whenever I play slardar Its for a counter pick (Invis heroes) thus I have an inflated 80% WR (on my main)

                        Guts

                          The main reason he wins alot wtih Slardar is because he tends to stack with whoji>绯空紫极 alot. They seem to have a game plan each time. His Slardar build is focused on assisting team rather than kills/deaths. I assume he initiates and tanks for the team alot. He also casts amplify damage and locks down the right targets for the team in late game (carries). Hence the high winrate but low kda ratio.

                          Hopeless

                            slardars have low k/da because the blink in and stun. What makes slardar strong is low mana cost and his ridiculously armor debuff ulti that gives truesight.

                            That said, Slardars reign is being threatened by Doom these days. Now that blink doesn't cost mana, doom can rush a blink, eat a centaur, and perform a similar role to slarder, without needing a safelane position farm, or falling off in farm mid game. Blitz played a mid doom like this, rushing a mek, and immediately getting blink. This was followed with BKB and shivas. food for thought.

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                            King of Low Prio

                              I had some fgt try and counter pick me with sladar today, too bad my BH style does not get countered by that nonsense.

                              Hopeless

                                i dont know whats worse. That slardar getting a ring of health after finishing vanguard, or you having 4 rings of health.

                                King of Low Prio

                                  I could not afford a heart so I had to improvise

                                  Alation

                                    look at my antimage )))))))))))))

                                    djgandy

                                      Slardar is tanky and I think his ulti catches a lot of people out. I always find it pretty easy to win with Slardar. Shitty opponents just don't seem get how he works. His ulti is a great counter to invisibility, the damage output it gives is huge and the cooldown is so low you can get it on 3 people at once. If you have that on you, you had better not take any damage, even from level 6 it is brutal.

                                      I'd not build Vanguard personally. I prefer Armlet as it gives armor and can be perma on if you build HoT.

                                      salt enjoyer

                                        Slardar is useful when built as a tank/carry or otherwise. He can be played as a hard carry http://dotabuff.com/matches/429974191
                                        it just takes some good teamwork to get him off the ground.