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Relentless

    How easily can we compete between regions?
    Please report your location and pings to the various servers around the world.

    Location: USeast

    Pings
    USeast 10-20 ms
    USwest 40-60 ms
    Russia 80-100 ms
    EUwest 120-140 ms
    EUeast 180-200 ms
    SEA 200-220 ms

    Introp7

      it depends on internet connection as well.

      EU East

      Pings
      EU East and West - ~50 ping
      USA East - 120 ping
      USA West - 220 ping
      Russia - 60 ping

      btw 120 is playable, but 200+ limits hero pool to lich

      Safe Base

        USE - 100 ping
        EUW - 20 ping
        EUE - 50 ping
        USW - 200 ping
        AUS - 400 ping

        .moochi

          USE-20
          USW-80
          EUE- 100
          EUW - 150

          sano

            Location: hue land

            SA - 50
            USe - 150
            USw - 200
            EU - 250~300
            Russia, SEA and others are like 400+

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            one and half gun

              Sweden

              Russia - 100-130
              euw/eue - 150-200
              USE - 250
              USW - 300
              SEA, AUS - 500+

              awtzbutaw

                Philippines

                Sea 150 i
                hk 150
                China 250
                Aus 200
                Us east 350
                Us west 300
                Eu 400
                Russia 350
                SA 400

                I tried playing with 15 to 30 ping on sea its like my weights on my feet were removed my hero played like its on steroids LOL. Hoping for a real LAN option soon.

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                Peekaboo

                  Aus
                  Aus - 30
                  Sea - 150-200
                  us - 300
                  eu - 350-400

                  one and half gun

                    you guys are so fucking lucky to play under 100 ms ping, you dont understand how its like to play with 130 ms ping and then it spikes to 300 or whatever because god fucking hates you irl

                    fml i could outplay literally anyone with awful heroes if i had such a low ping

                    6_din_49

                      Romania

                      Luxembourg - 31 ms
                      Austria - 50 ms
                      Stockholm - 65 ms
                      US East - 137 ms
                      US West - 198 ms
                      South Africa - 233 ms
                      Brazil - 270 ms
                      Singapore - 335 ms
                      Shanghai - 366 ms

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                      bum farto

                        United Kingdom. Based on lowest to highest.

                        EU West - 25-38ms
                        EU East - 26-42ms
                        US West - 63-90ms
                        US East - 45-77ms
                        SEA - 120-500ms (their servers are bipolar as fuck)
                        AUS - 150-200ms (did a ping test to a friends game, didn't actually play one)

                        one and half gun

                          you have 90 ms in USW servers? screenshot and speedtest results please

                          Silvers

                            Location: Poland

                            EU West - ~40ms
                            EU East - ~40ms
                            US West - 50-400ms (from agony to extasy, as a certain hero would say)
                            US East - 100ms++, played only once
                            AUS - 100-150ms(pretty stable as i remember, havent played there for a while... nice people, if someone cares)

                            You have a problem believing him chimney? I have no idea why you have such latency in sweden.

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                            Galahad

                              South Poland

                              Eu East&West - 60ms
                              Russia - 80ms
                              US East - 80-120ms (usually lower; sometimes people argue when they're winning, not when losing :)
                              US West - 150ms

                              Sōu ka

                                i hope you know that at least half of the pings here are complete bullshit and impossible
                                you don't have 120 from UK to SEA and you don't have ~90 to US West from anywhere in Europe
                                btw the netgraph ping is not actually your real ping

                                one and half gun

                                  because i'm not somalian, thats why i don't get the good stuff in my country.
                                  anyway, he's lying about his pings.

                                  typical brony shit

                                  allidoiswynn

                                    @Fuck the zero
                                    I lived in germany a year ago and played on US E/W servers every morning and I had a ping of ~100 and there was no difference to European servers

                                    Now I live in sweden

                                    US East 210
                                    US West 270
                                    Stockholm 100
                                    Australia 400
                                    South Africa 270

                                    Swiftending

                                      you shouldve specified whether you want pings from the -ping command, from the net graph, or from console

                                      because those are 3 different values

                                      Sōu ka

                                        no you didn't have 100 ping to us west from germany

                                        bum farto

                                          We don't all sit in dirt huts you know, some of us pay large amounts of money to get the best out of technology.

                                          Local Connection http://www.speedtest.net/result/2944470731.png
                                          VPN for US http://www.speedtest.net/result/2944224810.png

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                                          Sōu ka

                                            i dont think you know how vpns work
                                            the ping you're getting is the one between your vpn and the game server (if you're actually using the right ping) and thus not accounting for the delay between the vpn and you

                                            bum farto

                                              I have a full competent understanding of how a gateway VPN works and your continual effort to call out people on this topic won't work on me.

                                              >
                                              >

                                                Euw, Eue: around 150ms
                                                anywhere else: go over 400ms

                                                Sōu ka

                                                  ya and still you actually think you could have 120 ms to the sea server from eu
                                                  how could i question your knowledge after that one
                                                  or 63 ms to US west

                                                  Blu

                                                    Location: India, Speed: 1 Mbps
                                                    Sea: 90-160
                                                    SA: 300+
                                                    China: 200+
                                                    Eu East: 350+
                                                    Us East: 350+

                                                    Didnt have the guts to check out other servers.

                                                    bum farto

                                                      63ms as a minimum not as a stable number, stable ping was more around 80.
                                                      120ms as a low to a maximum high as much as 500+ in a single game sitting.

                                                      I quite frankly don't care if people question knowledge but constantly finding reason to question without cause is just not necessary.

                                                      @chimney
                                                      You asked for speedtest results and I provided them and a demeaning comeback is just off. I pay quite a lot of money for a good connection, a crazy good PC and all the other gadgets I own. Assuming I am a lier because you aren't used to having good pings, or a good PC or anything of the kind doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who do.

                                                      TL:DR Not a brony, you're stupid, go do one asscannon.

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                                                      Sōu ka

                                                        if you actually knew how vpns work you'd actually know that the numbers you've posted are completely meaningless
                                                        you could live anywhere in the world and connect to a VPN in Seattle and have ~0 ms on US west

                                                        so you posted pointless numbers and get upset that you get called out for it

                                                        expert

                                                          ^
                                                          pointless numbers

                                                          BenaoLifedancer

                                                            Norway

                                                            EU west~80 (60 sometimes)
                                                            US east~150
                                                            russia ~45 (better individual level, crappy teammates!... better to play with bots!-->and they are stupid players too (think they are playing vs bots xD))

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                                                            Relentless

                                                              Thanks to everyone for helping.

                                                              @Swiftending ...thanks for clarifying that. I was just looking for the in-game -ping command that everybody uses. I had hoped that this would encourage people to be aware of which nearby regions they could play and get a reasonable game.

                                                              Some people seem to think they can only play 1 region, but hopefully most people can at least play the neighboring regions easily. For instance my last 3 games on EUwest the ping did not seem to be a problem for me at all.

                                                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/297631504
                                                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/297604529
                                                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/297590458

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                                                              bum farto

                                                                Actually based on what you have just said in your last comment I am 100% sure you have zero clue what you are talking about and are making statements based on quick Google searches to try and make some long worded comments on a topic you have no knowledge or expertise in.

                                                                The numbers I have posted weren't actually done without a gateway as about 1 month prior people mentioned that Valve considered this a ban able offense so I haven't played on US servers since.

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                                                                Ples Mercy

                                                                  Location: Denmark

                                                                  Pings
                                                                  USeast ~ 80ms
                                                                  USwest ~ 110ms
                                                                  Russia ~14ms
                                                                  EUwest ~25ms
                                                                  EUeast ~ 30ms
                                                                  SEA Dunno

                                                                  @Relentless, why do you need the data? Kinda interested what your trying to accomplish.

                                                                  @FUck the Zero
                                                                  "you could live anywhere in the world and connect to a VPN in Seattle and have ~0 ms on US west"

                                                                  gtfo of here.

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                                                                  Sentenza

                                                                    Location: Budapest
                                                                    net_graph -ping console:

                                                                    USW:
                                                                    210 196 253

                                                                    USE:
                                                                    213 198 264

                                                                    Lux:
                                                                    58 33 101

                                                                    Sing:
                                                                    222 207 270

                                                                    Shan:
                                                                    360 340 402

                                                                    Stock:
                                                                    67 54 105

                                                                    Austria:
                                                                    36 9 107 !!!

                                                                    No Australia and Brasil.

                                                                    Relentless

                                                                      There are a few things I would like to see.

                                                                      [1] Some people are just unaware that you can get good pings to other regions. I want to encourage more dota play between regions.

                                                                      [2] I had earlier noticed that some people have much better pings than others in the same game from the same region and I would like to get some ideas on why that might happen. In particular how much better can it be with superior gear? Is is possible to get equipment that really makes a difference?

                                                                      [3] Are pings between regions symmetrical? I have seen some evidence before that they are not. I wonder why this is and if it might make sense to always play a mixed region stack on one server over the other.

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                                                                      bum farto

                                                                        On receiving it seems like EU East is the central most stable connection point with most people being able to comfortable connect at playable speeds. This is based on what people have posted and also from experience from friends connecting from the US and SEA.

                                                                        SEA Servers seem unplayable unless they open a hub in Hong Kong which will have crazy good ping.

                                                                        Sōu ka

                                                                          if only you could share your knowledge with professional players and teams on how to actually play on us west with 60 ping from eu and vice versa
                                                                          oh wait I'm fucking clueless

                                                                          Relentless

                                                                            Both people from Poland reported good pings to US servers sometimes. I was really surprised how low my ping is to Russia. But it has been like that consistently. I think you just have to try these things out and see what happens. If you don't want to risk a real game you could do a co-op bot game to check in-game pings and get a feel for what it would be like to play on that server.

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                                                                            Swiftending

                                                                              My ping to USE is 180-200 in console and 120-130 on the -ping command so if you could share your ''40 ms overseas ping'' secrets I'd be glad to hear

                                                                              Ples Mercy

                                                                                @ Relentles:
                                                                                Its really different from each provider, theres no way you can tell that some people in a region will have a better ping than others. Many people think that its all about bandwidth, which is not true at all. Some provider want to offer errorfree packages which are being sendt and recieved, which causes a higher ping. I know countless german people with a 16mbit/2mbit internet connection and yet still have a ping of 50ms on german servers, while others only have 2mbit/512kbit and are playing with 10ms.

                                                                                Im living in Denmark, which is a part of scandinavia, its pretty common that people from scandinavia have really fast internet connections, since almost everyone has fibreinternet, but that doesnt mean that everyone has fast internet.

                                                                                What in comes down to is the provider, nothing else. I saw some years ago, that some german provider acually offer something called 'fastpath', which basicly did cost like 1Euro more per month. When they activated fastpath, their ping went from 50ms to 15ms, im not sure if something like that exists in other countries though.

                                                                                Also you could optimize some netsettings via console, which would prolly make your ping like 2-3ms faster, which is not really worth mentioning.

                                                                                @ Havok Badger:
                                                                                I strongly suggest that you might want check your connection or PC, your pingfluxuation is extremely high (+-30ms is extreme). My Ping goes like +-2 and im usually using youtube and other stuff on a 15/2mbit connection.

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                                                                                nomhak

                                                                                  Location - Canada Central

                                                                                  USE: 20-40
                                                                                  USW: 40-60

                                                                                  Ples Mercy

                                                                                    ^
                                                                                    jesus fucking christ, what kind of internet are you guys on? If my ping went +-20ms i would fucking start to break my router.

                                                                                    bum farto

                                                                                      The secret lies in spending $80 a month on a connection worth having. Also my pings to SEA are worse then some of their connecting here so only good areas for me are US and EU currently with maybe delayed play on an SEA server.

                                                                                      Ples Mercy

                                                                                        ^
                                                                                        So your paying 80 fucking pounds for unstable shiternet, jesus.

                                                                                        Flyingpigs

                                                                                          Wow my Internet must be shit as hell. Im playin with 60-90ms on a day. On a shit day, it goes from 100-200 and all the way to 1k when my flat mates wakes up and watch porn. All these while playing in aus region. The only region i can play in.

                                                                                          one and half gun

                                                                                            so the secret is to pay $80 and god willingly flies down to your house to upgrade your infrastructure for free (let's deny the fact that upgrading from adsl to fiber can cost up to 1800 euros) and then you will unlock the secret to playing on low ping over sea?

                                                                                            my god, it sounds too good to be true

                                                                                            Relentless

                                                                                              My in game pings tend to vary within a range of 20. That seems to be the case on any of the servers...although USeast is more consistent.

                                                                                              I also tend to get tons of lag spikes during lighting storms, but that does not seem to change the pings that are reported.

                                                                                              bum farto

                                                                                                AS long as the cables are laid in your area the installation shouldn't cost more than a regular initial ADSL installation. Mine was about £90 installation then £50 a month for the 150MB so I guess its not so bad.

                                                                                                The only companies I have used that are cable based are BT Infinity, Virgin Media, Time Warner (US) and they all have connections ranging from 60-120MB for not that much money.

                                                                                                Ples Mercy

                                                                                                  @chimney:
                                                                                                  Not true at all. In denmark there is fibre internet all over the place, you do not pay for the fibre installation. My mother lives in a small village with 135 people and she has 50/50mbit internet connection there. So in denmark fibreinternet is not something expensive, i doubt that it costs alot for other people in other countries aswell, maybe your country is just shitty when it comes to internet.

                                                                                                  Im still amazed how shitty internet some people acually have, first of all the price for a 100/100mbit connection for havok, then the shitty perfomance. Im really suprised, i mean CMON, not even 100/100mbit, pingspikes and the questionable ping.

                                                                                                  Havok: 100/100mbit (only gets like 80s/70s), ping is like 15~ (while gaming huge spikes), pays 80 pounds, which is like 120dollars or so)
                                                                                                  My mothers internet: 50/50mbit (gets 52/54mbit, ping is ~5 (gaming max spike is 1ms), pays 50dollars, which is less than half.
                                                                                                  My Internet: (ADSL, 15/2, getting 14,8mbit/2,03mbit, ping is ~10(while gaming max spike 2ms), paying 9,5Dollars

                                                                                                  Basicly even my old ass cheap connection is better than the 120Dollar connection from havok, when it comes to gaming, im rly fucking shocked.

                                                                                                  one and half gun

                                                                                                    blunt, you're probably 12 so i wont explain to you why you even have fiber access

                                                                                                    Ples Mercy

                                                                                                      ^
                                                                                                      Oh kid, your so cute. Go play with your toys instead of sitting in front of the PC, mommy would be happy.

                                                                                                      bum farto

                                                                                                        Actually your connection sadly is nowhere as good as mine. To get an accurate count on pings you can just load one game for a second check the ping then log out. Pings fluctuate from time of day, server load and updates/bug fixes etc.

                                                                                                        Sitting anywhere in 40-10ms is more than overly playable and getting slightly better ms on a server doesn't derive a better connection but rather latency due possible to sitting physically closer to a servers location. There is possibly even plateau for how good a connection you can achieve to any one location and keep in mind there is no way in hell I would pay so much for a connection if I wasn't sure I would be getting my moneys worth and also wouldn't have gotten it solely for the purpose of playing games.

                                                                                                        Keep in mind that most ADSL connections go unchecked and uncapped with one of the biggest issues to cable connections being that they are heavily monitored and you run the risk of caps under certain load balancing proxies.

                                                                                                        TL:DR Different kind of connections work different, my pings are 100% stable, pings done from http://tinyurl.com/khxoqs5

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