well ck has even RNG attack at start

Hes also a sick 4position roamer at my pleb level mid 4k games :)

hotd carry ck EleGiggle nice post dude(no Kappa)

CK is the God when 6 slotted + moonshard.

random number generator, more on RNG mechanics in Dota here

^no link?

helm is a situational pickup for earlygame push strats. Honestly I prefer grabbing drums and letting someone else build the helm though.

CK is very snowball dependent. If they stop you early game, there ain't much you can do.

CK is the God when 6 slotted + moonshard.

^ for a carry that's more than functional with 3-4 dedicated carry items, a six-slotted ck is basically a gg

Nobody out carries chaos and his early game is strong. If you can just survive the midgame its GG.

His mount is really cool looking, but the Knight himself could use a little rework. He looks so tiny on that fiery horse. And his armor isn't too impressive either. Anyways, glad to see he's gaining popularity.

Better play safe lane.

i main offlane CK here in 2k, 75% winrate :D

one level in stun, new meta for sure

people talking about six slots....i just got carried by a ck that got a rampage 25 mins in with only treads armlet and halbred....hero is dumb broken when uncountered

@Vestile, much impressed, such wow, total 54 ck game, 70% winrate. in 2k, uh no 1k rank. -0- gitgud

sometimes even if you have a counter, ck will roll over you...i dont think there's a harder carry in the game than ck...the closest thing to a reliable counter i can think of is timber and even then you need to rek his mid game and finish off the game before 40 mins because if he gets his levels...gg

Aghs ult pa ally and watch em melt in single rift no krappa

The hero’s concept is implied in the name, as all spells have a factor of RNG (random number generator, more on RNG mechanics in Dota here) in them.

No link provided, please add, thanks.

Tb presses q, rip ck ult.

Here's the post, an interesting one tho, which was perhaps the one intended to be linked.

Can someone please explain why a lot of the higher mmr players in the featured guides in dotabuff take 1 level of chaos bolt and then max out rift and crit?

Woooo I have that hats from Dark Moon

@Waaaagh!!11

they feel that crit is stronger in farm and fights and you don't use chaos bolt all that ofter and you still can roll 2 sec stun with lvl 4 and level 1
also manacost is crazy

personally i feel like max bolt after rift is a must because i'm not that lucky and in pubs it's better to dominate with your carry early on if you have a kit for it and CK is for sure one of those heroes

24th comment wohooooooooooooooooooooooo

If im not wrong you still not take the ulti level until level 11 right?

@Waaaaaaagh!!!

For early levels, CK needs more chasing/sustaining skills(his right click attacks are so good enough, so just focus on defensive) than lockdown, as you can leave that to your supports

Unless you're playing in 1k or 2k games. Kappa.

@Waaaaaaagh!!!

For early levels, CK needs more chasing/sustaining skills(his right click attacks are so good enough, so just focus on defensive) than lockdown, as you can leave that to your supports

Unless you're playing in 1k or 2k games. Kappa.

If only I knew what "niche" actually is :P

@Waaaaaaagh!!! Chaos Bolt requires more mana, which Chaos Knight lacks heavily, with more levels added to it. Also, CK's main damaging factor is his auto-attack, so you shouldn't rely on the unreliable damage done by Chaos Bolt. Chaos Bolt's main purpose is the stun, which grows with a minimum of 1/1/2/2 seconds per level of the skill (I can't remember the maximum time per level, but I'm quite sure at Level 4 it gives 4 seconds of maximum stun time, again it's RNG-based).

Reality Rift, however, costs a stable 50 mana across all skill levels. It also gives 1/3/5/7 armor reduction to the target; so a Level 4 Reality Rift will allow you to cause -7 armor for only 50 mana. Again, it syncs very well with Chaos Knight's main damage dealing method: his auto-attack, and does not trigger his primary weakness: his very low mana pool.

His passive is already a given, it allows him to have physical burst and lifesteal that are also shared by his Phantasms.

Personally, I max out Reality Rift first, with only one level of Chaos Bolt at Level 1, then max out 3rd and get my Phantasms at level 9, 10, or 11.

I also opt to go with an Orb of Venom during early game and either go Drums, Dominator, or Medallion/Crest come mid-game.

EDIT: AFTER the Armlet's done, of course.

@It is time to tip the scales "Niche" just means belonging to a very specific group or scenario. When you say a hero is a niche pick, it means the hero is only viable in pulling-off a certain strategy (i.e. Broodmother's split pushing strat, for one.); simply put, they're heroes with low flexibility with roles and/or item builds.

dunno why isnt pl more popular for the same reason. a fighting illusion hero that can farm fast and be good on lane (spirit lance deals a good amount of dmg) yea ik timber es and many others counter him but he could be a lastpick

I think sven is the better counter. because you should kill him fast and also have battlefury. or pick pa and magnus at the same time(don't recommend this). but i saw a lot sven against ck and there was more than 80% success

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finally full cancer hero

@it's a game sven takes considerably longer to come online and ,i have no clue where your bracket is, but if you're seeing a sven building battlefury outside of super late game to spread damage then you need to do some grinding.

@Vestile you arent in 2k

Well there isn't other options than to pick CK at last pick, at least in pubs. Pick CK early and you are destined to see other team pick sven/shaker. Also, a lot of magic AOE is also a pain in the ass, coz seriously, CK isn't strong without his illusions. And if CK isn't 6 slotted, illusions will die quickly.

Against shaker, don't use ulti until he goes down (this can be easy or difficult, depending on the initiation)

Against sven, you can build halbeard before he gets his bkb. You can then shut him down so that he is too far behind to catch up to you. If sven does get bkb, then you'll have to stun -> halbeard him and try to burst him with the ck illusions around him. If the illusions are around him, he'll have to move to cleave all of them.

Both of these heroes are much easier to deal with if teammates are helping you with these problems.

Against shaker, don't use ulti until he goes down (this can be easy or difficult, depending on the initiation)

Against sven, you can build halbeard before he gets his bkb. You can then shut him down so that he is too far behind to catch up to you. If sven does get bkb, then you'll have to stun -> halbeard him and try to burst him with the ck illusions around him. If the illusions are around him, he'll have to move to cleave all of them.

Both of these heroes are much easier to deal with if teammates are helping you with these problems.