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I would much prefer the double elimination format, for a more fair result, and for more games for me to watch and enjoy. This single elimination format just motivates team to pull out pocket cheese strats, and you can't really see the skill of teams like dc or eg who almost always underperform first few matches. I don't even think i'll watch the boston major because of this, for it has no value who wins, because it's just not reliable.

Volvo be like:
Hey, since these stupid buggers will gonna buy the battle pass and Major ticket no matter what format we do... why don't we just change to single elimination? This way, we can reduce the production cost from 6 days to 4 days which saves us about 33% of the cost!

seriously... wtf boston major... wtf valve...

Valve being so greedy. Even trying to cut the cost. They all want to gain but dont want to give some. Getting selfish, eh? FFS, give the fans something they deserve! It is the fans who feed you!

Volvo be like:
Hey, since these stupid buggers will gonna buy the battle pass and Major ticket no matter what format we do... why don't we just change to single elimination? This way, we can reduce the production cost from 6 days to 4 days which saves us about 33% of the cost!

This !

^ you got the point. Greedy valve.

To some extent I agree with what FeralImpulse just wrote, even if I will probably still watch it. For conversely to what OP says, it is not the case that 'There’s a risk that less games can undermine a tournament’s integrity, but a single elimination bracket isn’t the format that will do it'. As far as we know, it could certainly do it, because the lack of a loser bracket skews the importance of the tournament toward seeding (arbitrary) and opponent choice (arbitrary) for teams that do well in groupe stage (assuming this would allow them to pick their first opponents, as was the case in past Valve events).

"Hey, since these stupid buggers will gonna buy the battle pass and Major ticket no matter what format we do... why don't we just change to single elimination? This way, we can reduce the production cost from 6 days to 4 days which saves us about 33% of the cost!"

This exactly.

since when does john titor play dota 2 lul. Go back to your worldline, buddy!

This is poor from Valve, they should really consult the community before making a decision like this. I hope there is a community backlash so they learn from their mistake.

I don't want to see Dota just turned into a valve cash cow, they need to look after the game as they have in the past.

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I think this is probably a venue problem. I doubt such a "small" theater is going to want to hold Dota for so long. Also tickets are probably going to be very expensive and in order to avoid paying tons of money to see your favorite team twice they need to shorten the tournament. It's unfortunate and I don't really think single elimination fits Dota, but it appears we are going to have to live with it.

Don't like it and hope it's a once-off, not the start of the new major meta......................[otherwise I'll commence with the volvo reddit flaming]

Let them do what they like.
They gave me dota 2.
For free.
Don't whine.
Enjoy this great free game. And be grateful for what you get.

Fewer games.

I like the change up. sounds like a good change of pace

im fine wiht this change. first imo its good to have a difference between majors and TI beside prizepool. i got less hyped for TI this year because i already watched 3 big Dota tournaments.
also it can make the games really exciting. in double elimination you know that you will get another chance in the lower bracket but in single elimination you either win or you are out.

I'm actually not that annoyed by it, as long as it's a one-off thing.

this is absurd. how cheap can valve get?

Stannis: "Fewer".

Is the Frankfurt Major still going to happen this year or is this taking its place?

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Fewer games, not less games please.

Fewer "things", less "stuff" etc etc etc

I like the article! Only part that I think is wrong "Digital Chaos would’ve had a first round exit at TI6,", untrue, since with single elim they should be seeded into Playoffs against their opposite on the bracket. In double elim, top 4's play against each other, and bottom 4's play against each other. DC got 2nd in their group and had to play against the 3rd best of other group(which was WINGS).

If it's single elim, DC would have likely chosen to play against the 7th place team in opposite group. They would have still arguably lost before getting 2nd(lost Semi finals upper bracket vs WINGS), but it wouldn't have been round 1.

The only thing which ever disturbed me is that lowerbracket team needed to play two important series in the final day withowt a much of a rest... Anyway, will be interesting to see.

I really want to hope that this change was prompted by problems around the venue, rather than greed, because that would be a bad turn Volvo takes. As a fan, I would always want to watch more games and if maths says it's more fairer, then it is definitely the better choice to have a lower bracket.

Main flaw double elimination has nowadays is that team (name it A) that came from upper bracket has no advantage in grand final. It should be kinda bo4, starting with 1-0 score in favor of team A.

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I don't see why many people disagree with this, single elimination is way better than double elimination.

Finally there's no greed on this, the fuck, you can't buy points anymore for the Compendium. Valve going GOAT mode.

"I don't see why many people disagree with this, single elimination is way better than double elimination."

Nah, double elimination is always better than single elimination due to larger sample size; therefore, fairer matches. Actually the best format is round-robin since every teams get to fight each other but it eliminates the "wow" factor because it doesn't have grand final and stuff. That's why it's best to combine both round-robin and double elimination.

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