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Seems legit.

but i am waiting for the cry babies who never change lanes and think that 2 1 2 meta is static till minute 20

But surely u would need 6 players on each team to conform to the 2-1-3 meta

pick ogre ez 6th player

Lc woods best meta

People going to pick up on how strong Chen is just from the recall soon.

isnt that what you do anyway as pos 4

ruin safelane, take tower minute 7 or so, offlaner can pressure alone with a ward in enemy jungle, help defend your own safelane tier 1?

2 carries, 1 mid, 1 aoe stunner initiator and Chen. One of the carry needs more cc and the other very high physical dmg. also preferably magic burst mid.

People going to pick up on how strong Chen is just from the recall soon.

Recall is strong but his new penitence is absolutely broken, on whatever target is pressed it will be deleted in seconds,

You may call me dumb or w/e but i thought chen was heavy nerfed how is he strong now?

You may call me dumb or w/e but i thought chen was heavy nerfed how is he strong now?

While its true that you cant get army of creeps early in the game and you have to wait until you can even have any usefull creep. His other skills are ridiculously broken when paired up with the right lane partner. You have KOTL recall now permanently, that skill saves lives, strengthens push, creates an upper-hand situation when you dont have it, its very good.

PENITENCE
DURATION: 5 / 6 / 7 / 8
MOVEMENT SLOW: -18% / -24% / -30% / -36%
BONUS ATTACK SPEED: 30 / 60 / 90 / 120
CAST POINT 0.3s

You give a free moonshard on lvl 4 to everyone in your team and surrounding units

DIVINE FAVOR
HEAL INCREASE: 25%
REGEN PER SEC: 7 / 13 / 19 / 25
ATTACK DAMAGE: 10 / 20 / 40 / 80
DURATION: 12.0
CAST POINT 0.3s

Imagine Chen + Huskar lane, how annoying it is when Huskar gets these buffs? I think Chen has a great potential its just not showing yet, his only flaw is lack of disables or spamable nuke spell that is required from pos 4 heroes in this meta.

Pick Oracle, purge the buff on husk and the debuff on your ally. Disarm if necessary.

KthxBye chen.

Is QW chen actually viable? Durations seem to be high and cooldowns low. Seems like wisp, but better in lane.

^ IT has to be viable because you cant take large camps with your Persuasion until you are level 4

About the Q:

Once gained, the speed buff stays for its full duration, so it can be used against other targets.

The speed buff is granted to any allied unit, including buildings and wards.

Wait, does it not get refreshed if you keep attacking the target? It lasts for 2 seconds max in any case?

It does get refreshed but you have a linger time of 2 sec upon starting the attack so I guess with some micro and attack cancel you can get the AS buff to attack a tower xD

As i said Chen is stealthily OP, im just parking him in the garage until some doto nerd discovers some broken interaction, so i start spamming him again, my micro-skills are average at best and i managed to get stupid winrate on him in 5k bracket. before the nerf.

chen +MK? any good?

MK + anything is pretty good rn.

^PA and MK?

I just tried jungle tb it works

^a game versus russian 5-stack is like fighting a toddler army: you win eventually, even if your only weapon is frozen yohurt

I had a russian in my team that makes a toddler vs toddler
wat

^I was refering to a russian 5-man stack as a special phenomenon. The thing is mutual misunderstanding and tilting material that 5man stack is generating once they are all speaking russian and utilizing their anti-social cultural legacies. This is basically like too higher concentration of anything can lead to poison. Having 1 russian does not do the thing simply because no social element to trigger the titling depression of the stack

ok bro w/e you win

try chen + wd, penitence attack speed boost works on the death ward, looks pretty