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General DiscussionHow to get out of archon? Need help guys

How to get out of archon? Need help guys in General Discussion
CHRIS

    Im archon 2 last season and now im still uncalibrated. My standing as of now in solo ranked tbd is 2-4. Tips on how to be a better player? Im good at farming and my current gpm average is 501 and xpm is 609 while last hits are 226 for the last 20 games considering 5 of that games are im playing as a supp. When im not playing support yet my ave gpm xpm lh is at ~580 ~670 ~320 respectively. What shall i do to be better? I also adjust my roles depending on my teammates picks.

    Weee

      580 gpm wow!! that's BERRY good sir. 500+gpm usually only happens in ancient. you are clearly ancient tier sir. maybe legend? tbf

      TokyoTokyo

        spam ur best hero, adjust in archon bracket is nonsense. trust me, i always first pick lycan, clinkz or ck. win or lose who cares.

        dscbl

          teach me

          Peekaboo

            Hey pal - Read this, posted it a month ago although the majority of it is still relivant
            - https://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2018-06-18-ranked-season-2-1000-mmr--the-trench-doesnt-hold-you-back-friend

            CHRIS

              Lol @tims im just good at farming but i dont think i belong to that tier wahaha im just an average dota player. Just wanna get to at least legend.

              CHRIS

                @MckJohan true bro haha no point in supporting bc others cannot play carry. thank you for the tip

                CHRIS

                  @How i met your Broodmother thank you pal cheers

                  Tribo

                    learn visage
                    learn how to use quick cast
                    pick visage(preferably last pick)
                    don't pick him vs high physical dmg
                    ????????
                    profit

                    Jicniv Rune Farlord El Nix

                      spam LC woods for very high skill

                      Javad

                        aight here's what i did and u can do or just find another way if u dont like it.

                        1.choose 1 hero, preferably core cuz it'll be easier to control the game when ur game sense isn't super high

                        2. go to dotabuff and opendota rankings of that hero. find spammers or high mmr players who play this hero often.

                        3. watch every available replay of their games they played on the hero u chose (replays expire after 7 days)
                        learn their patterns. like for example, see how the clinkz player uses w to harrass in lane, see his skill builds and items builds vs different matchups, then see how he rotates to jungle at 6 to eat a big creep and then clear the rest of the camp. see how he starts ganking after getting medallion, and see how he farms in the down times when his ult is ending and he's waiting for the next one to be up. see how he takes tower after kills, and etc.

                        watching others who did the work and learned the stuff, and copying their patterns is the fastest way to learn the right way to play.

                        SO... u keep watching and learning, then playing and applying. it's not gonna be a magic pill that u do and suddenly boom ur mmr inflates. u put a lotta time trying to do it but fuckin up. u gotta see what U did wrong in all those games, then find out what that spammer dude did to win in that situation. (for example u lose as meepo vs sven. u go watch a meepo vs sven replay of that guy and see how he wins)

                        u keep doing this, and at some point ur knowledge becomes so much u can win different matchups, lanes, and scenarios.

                        after u do this with one hero long enough that ur brain starts to think about more important stuff like game sense and map awareness and etc, and those develop a good amount, now u can expand ur pool and add one then two then 3 heroes to ur pool, same way u learned the first one

                        Sleight of My Fist In You...

                          learning meta heroes is the only way to get out of trench....so this meta just learn ursa. in archon you should easily be getting 15+ kills and ending the game by 30 mins. you will obviously lose some games important to learn why you lost like if an enemy riki got fed and is wrecking

                          click click

                            U better stay there. Legend is sucks, for real

                            Positive Mental Attitude

                              Archon is a safe place. Legend players nowaday is even worst than a crusader and archon plays like an ancient

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                              PVMRT

                                You gonna be calibrated at Crusader, so the question really is "How to get out of Crusader"

                                Lazer

                                  That AM winrate tho

                                  Marshall may have Mathered

                                    watch thousands of replays and then watch some more. literally only watch replays and stop playing altogether and then come back after 3 years of watching replays and you are now legend.

                                    lancer

                                      Looking at win rates, I think your storm spirit is one of the key hero while AM is not. If you like playing storm, you can watch some high skill games for storm and learn the rotation and build. You can also learn how to counter 'Storm-Counters' i.e. heroes that counter storm.

                                      For ex: Few hours back I was watching inyourDream's Live game and he was playing storm against Huskar(Storm Counter) and was badly harassed. So after level 3 he left the lane and went to jungle and/or took creeps from top or bot lane (near/between Tier2/3 tower) and then TP back to mid to def the tower (since huskar pushed the lane) and Repeat. This way you don't lose the farm.

                                      PS: Try to look at the time and stack the neutrals while farming jungle. This will boost your farm.

                                      I'm not a great player but thats what i learned and used to up my gameplay. Jumped from 2k to 3.2k mmr :D

                                      Muhammad Sumbul

                                        Dont play ranked and youll get out of archon.Just spam unranked

                                        Javad

                                          lol, players of each bracket stating their limiting beliefs that hold them in their brackets. classic.

                                          and the one that says "x is THE ONLY WAY to get mmr"

                                          Jack__Attack

                                            Learn visage.

                                            michael sassbender

                                              get gud

                                              CHRIS

                                                @fa7 yeah this steam acc was created on 2014 and i was a kid back then and i always use am that's why haha. I don't use am nowadays. Hahaha.

                                                CHRIS

                                                  Thanks for the tips bros. I actually watch replays everyday and watch pro players in the watch tab that's why i knew how to farm better. Thanks. Im gonna spam my best heros now.

                                                  Peekaboo

                                                    Nice man, if you read my article from a month ago, you should be pretty prepared.
                                                    if you hit me up on steam i'll give you an hour or so free coaching (mind you, i'm still a pleb, just slightly less plebby than you XD).
                                                    You seem humble, and i would like to get some experience coaching anyway.
                                                    Considering i climbed now 1500 mmr since RS2, i may be of some assistance.

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                                                    La Joya

                                                      Pick hero who able to do split pushing like Luna, NP, or Broodmama. People in your bracket (even mine) still having hard time to handle it.

                                                      CHRIS

                                                        @2golems how can i reach you on steam bro? I really want to increase my rank i just dont know how. Only my farming got better by watching videos.

                                                        Peekaboo

                                                          I have about 60 people pending and i'm trying to finish my blue star.. 4925 atm, do you have a mic/discord, if so it'll be alot easier for me to coach. I'm quite experienced in most aspects of the game however, choose a role and/or hero or two and i'll run a coaching session. I see you like weaver alot, I'm 70% winrate with him and picking him frequently this patch, I'll give ya 2 hours.

                                                          https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048428066/home/