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General DiscussionIs Dota dying?

Is Dota dying? in General Discussion
the better spidey

    7.09 just dropped a few days ago yet it felt like nothing. Pretty much all of my Dota mates haven’t played a game ever since the holidays.

    No Chinese New Year event, no Battlepass until May.

    No Pudge arcana.

    Valve even mentioned that there won’t be a big update for half a year.

    Not to mention all of these big name personalities leaving their tier-1 positions in the scene (Merlini and LD).

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    Shou

      It's ded if u want it to be
      Anyone can spin it to look either way rn, you can say there is a lot of fresh talent, a new way to balance the game was introduced, etc.
      It's pretty simple, if you don't wanna play then don't play, if you do the continue, all these threads r super fucking pointless.

      Dex

        Maybe it is dying, many people have now stopped playing this game and as for I think don't really like this new patch , I don't know maybe this game might last only like 5-10 years I guess.

        the better spidey

          Forgot to mention Artifact. Once that game gets released we can expect even less development on the actual Dota2 game.

          Clippy

            I mean I stopped playing ranked for a lot of different reasons. I've been playing nothing but unranked for like almost 2 weeks now and I'm actually starting to enjoy the game again. A lot of people have left that's for sure. And there really isn't that many new players coming to dota despite what the stats may tell you. It's been out so long that the people who enjoy it still play it, and those that don't play other games like League or PUBG

            Shou

              If anything artifact draws people to dota that wudnt otherwise play it

              Tribo

                It will never die

                шойгу где шарды

                  I know dota players are not the most educated people in the world, but making a claim that the game is dead without any real definition of this term over and over again is pretty much retarded. Especially using personal subjective perception of the game as basis

                  Pale Mannie

                    no u are dead

                    Mortal

                      This definitely the true situation. In my friend list, only 2 still playing Dota. The others are playing others games just like me.

                      Maybe we can come back, but i think at least for me i dont have any will to spend 40 min - 1 hour with teenagers and 20 yrs old immature adults.

                      Besides the responsibilities in your life, when you grow old i guess our tolerance with bad behavior and toxicity in general are much smaller.

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                      casual gamer

                        rearm works on heart of tarrasque

                        no relevance just thought it was interesting

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                        one syllable anglo-saxon

                          why
                          its not in the list of non-rearmable exceptions

                          casual gamer

                            i thought it was in that list but it isnt

                            linkens is, figured heart would be too maybe my brains broken

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                            GRANT MACDONALD

                              This whole "New Patch every 2 weeks for the sake of it" make zero sense.

                              Adjust the meta or buff/nerf items because they are weak or OP. Nobody was clamoring for changes to stacking or for the bounty runes to be changed at the start of the game. persistent changes discourages newcomers from learning the game since if you put the game away for a month, there's a good chance that 1/3 of the total spells and items have shifted

                              the better spidey

                                I agree. The 2 week cycle fixes nothing imo. If anything the slow burning, giant updates are dota’s trademark and has always brought newfound interest in the game.

                                Tu tayta

                                  It's funny. A game's number of players is dwindling. People point that out, but always fail to point out that the game's updates make smurfing and or botting progressively harder.

                                  This isn't the first game I've seen that happening to.

                                  AloneInKyōto

                                    The better Spidey was Tobey kiddo

                                    ♏mikeeCS ツ

                                      ^^ Tom is better spidey imo. Tom cruise

                                      chat banned :)

                                        dude watch majors u will see if its dead or not

                                        Edshot machine(show me da...

                                          Just rework the fucking matchmaking ffs.

                                          Although the match making has low mmr spread while playing BUT THE QUEUE TIMES ARE FUCKING INSANE TOOK ME 45 MIN TO FIND A LEGEND RANK GAME ON SEA like wtf

                                          This Is killing the game fun for me(a hardcore 35 hrs a week player) now I'm playing less often cuz of this shit

                                          Before it only took 3-4 min MAX to find a game EU WEST ALSO has this prob but w8 time is 10-11 min

                                          Edit: My behavior score is F cuz of 2 many abandons(i only get muted by reports..dont get lp) maybe that's y?????even so this shit should not exist FIX GABEN PLS

                                          ALSO dotargp.io shows only around 3000 people searching for GAMES at 3:00 AM so maybe DOTA IS DYING BUT CERTAINLY NOT DEAD

                                          Fuka suginai o nīchan

                                            40 min average gaming time per Match is too fucking long.
                                            Fuck buybacks, Fuck highground and fuck stupid ppl.

                                            The Legendary Phenom

                                              Just reset the game back to 6.80xxxxx without that stupid talent and shrine and with bonus attributes fuking idiot valve

                                              Jacked

                                                Lol Peenoise stop your whining please. No one cares about your shit mm experience. It's because you are a shit player.

                                                GRANT MACDONALD

                                                  "Edit: My behavior score is F cuz of 2 many abandons(i only get muted by reports..dont get lp) maybe that's y?????"

                                                  Im guessing it is taking volvo a long time to find 9x other shitlords in your mmr range and region queuing up at the same time.

                                                  Edshot machine(show me da...

                                                    I'm legend lol it shouldnt take valve fucking 40 min to queue me with 9x others....

                                                    Behavior score matter but this shit is on their end queue times have increased for all of us see reddit countless ppl complaining about this shit

                                                    Bosnian Blade

                                                      lol 40 min , u must be some cancer to play with
                                                      for me solo average que is 30 sec
                                                      party about 2 min

                                                      Edshot machine(show me da...

                                                        ^ at what time exactly??and I'm talking about 3:00 am.....

                                                        takes me 6-10 min to find rank games before midnight and 3 min like u said at daytime(kids fucking feed at this time that's y I don't play)

                                                        Before it would take me 1 min to find game after midnight

                                                        Edshot machine(show me da...

                                                          And what about dotargp.io it only shows 60k ppl searching for games at peak time when there are 582600 players in game????

                                                          Something is waaaaay off I certainly hope many player play dota like they used to(loved the trash talk but now kids get butthurt and don't even enjoy the game lmao)

                                                          Zenoth

                                                            And what about dotargp.io it only shows 60k ppl searching for games at peak time when there are 582600 players in game????

                                                            maybe because people are IN GAME dude....

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                                                            Edshot machine(show me da...

                                                              ^ IN GAME is when we log onto the main screen Is it not??

                                                              Grimm

                                                                this guy has the brain of his pp hulk

                                                                Bedge

                                                                  Dota is dead for the people who used to play thousands of hours in the past. It's past the point of being a good game for majority of them. But there's plenty of short-term newfags to keep it alive as a business.

                                                                  jeremy meeks' personality

                                                                    But there's plenty of short-term newfags to keep it alive as a business.

                                                                    fucking lol, are you implying that there's significant new players coming to Dota 2 in 2018?
                                                                    Most, if not all of them drop the game after 20-30 unranked matches filled with smurfs and doubtful stacks.
                                                                    And accepting to spend 1k hours to learn a video game is over : HearthStone, Fortnite, PUBG, it's all about letting your brain unplugged and stress-free and having fun with friends.

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                                                                    Shou

                                                                      I can't unplug my brain when playing fortnite because I'm super dogshit and everything is hard and backwards and weird.

                                                                      Edshot machine(show me da...

                                                                        ^ sad but true hope some gay race or sjw feminists plays invade dota so it can be popular again T__T xD

                                                                        Edshot machine(show me da...

                                                                          And no 1k hr Is not needed to LEARN dota I learned it in 100 hr(played wc 3 as kid didn't understand shit back then lol).....

                                                                          1000 hr would make you ancient leven imo(as I'm legend in 700+)

                                                                          Shou

                                                                            Dude u might actually have brain damage

                                                                            Zenoth

                                                                              fucking doesnt understand some people are actually playing dota and not searching for a match lmao

                                                                              Feachairu

                                                                                I WAS IN AWE WITH MY CUSTOMIZED LOOKING GOOD HEROES OKAY?

                                                                                ARE YOU SAYING THAT I'M JUST IDLING DOING ANYTHING?

                                                                                YOU JUDGEMENTAL ZENOTH BASTARD!

                                                                                XXX-XXX

                                                                                  yeah the game is dying slowly. imo the cap on mmr calibration is one of many things that make dota die, many people make smurf not because they noob or whtever but its hard as fuck to climb and they just stuck... so with cap on calibration many people stop to play coz they wont get anything with mmr neither normal. u guys still remember when dota used to gift something when u guys got level up right ????

                                                                                  bebec

                                                                                    if you ask me id say this half year they making international 2018,wich will be something very big

                                                                                    SASA POPOVIC

                                                                                      yeah the game is dying slowly. imo the cap on mmr calibration is one of many things that make dota die, many people make smurf not because they noob or whtever but its hard as fuck to climb and they just stuck... so with cap on calibration many people stop to play coz they wont get anything with mmr neither normal. u guys still remember when dota used to gift something when u guys got level up right ????

                                                                                      Well at that point when they removed levelup drops and chests, it was became pretty clear that they want to milk this cow until death, now you only get some untradable item once every full moon, you gotta pay for the rest, doubt anything will change in this aspect since they lost pretty much 50% of most paying customers from EU west and NA... Im pretty curious to see reward pool on the next TI.

                                                                                      Knifepony

                                                                                        I'm really just finding myself going back to racing games, lol.

                                                                                        Pale Mannie

                                                                                          can we stop bumping garbage threads now?

                                                                                          шойгу где шарды

                                                                                            Okay you right let’s not bump this shit

                                                                                            la judicatura

                                                                                              yes, it is.

                                                                                              SASA POPOVIC

                                                                                                can we stop bumping garbage threads now?

                                                                                                Hi, enter dota 2, look at top corner on the right, its Friday night, all the younglings are unleashed, so tell me is that a healthy population of a f2p game thats on the market since 2011?

                                                                                                SASA POPOVIC

                                                                                                  Happy new 2018 lad!
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