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General DiscussionDrums of Endurance active is severely underrated

Drums of Endurance active is severely underrated in General Discussion
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    I noticed, how strong of a DPS increase it gives, if your team has even a little bit of summoned units.

    E.g. if you're a level 16 Lycan w/Drums+PT+Necro 3 and 2-1 talent build, drums active give around 100 flat bonus DPS with 2 wolves, Necros and no Howl used.
    To compare, having Vlads instead of Drums would only give ~50 bonus flat DPS.

    Assuming you have any summon-based cores or just multiple summon-based heroes, having Drums on one of the support heroes is a permanent must through the whole game, as it would give INSANE DPS boost, assuming it's not only Lycan, but Visage/NP/Brood in your draft.

    Towers just melt through one Drums active charge, when Howl is used.

    low prio master

      I have been think to build on SB for aegis.

      CoL.Limmp

        good for chasing and running

        meteor hammer

          replace drums of endurance with urn of shadows and your title is accurate

          in a world where drums has to compete with force staff and glimmer cape, it's pretty fucking hard to justify unless you are knocking on towers at 18-25 minutes

          CoL.Limmp

            yea drums are good with voker w33 always buy it but suports dont need item , offlaners does

            cartel

              Huh...what offlaner other than np would "need" it

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                My point is, it gives bonus AS active aura equal to that of Assault Cuirass and works on summoned units the same way.

                The damage per second increase for the whole team far outweights its price, assuming you have lots of right-click/summons/illusions.

                Shou

                  Drums may give great dps, but that's not always what ur looking for
                  Most supports just want to live to cast their spells, so defensive items like force and glimmer r better
                  It just doesn't suit the needs of a support.

                  CoL.Limmp

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                    Potato Marshal

                      I don't think drums are overrated or underrated. It's a relatively cheap stat item that takes up an entire item slot. Supports are usually better off getting a utility item like glimmer, force, ghost etc. whereas carries are usually better off saving up for bigger items. The active is alright, but it only has 6 charges, that's nearly a 100 gold each just for 6 seconds of 25 attack speed and 13% movement speed. Plus most of the times the active is best used when taking towers because that's one of the few times your whole team is guaranteed to be hitting something for 6 seconds straight.

                      evy

                        Blame pros for getting 3 of them on each team back when it actually gave stats

                        LeFlash

                          Im actually liking them a lot now for supports since all the componemts are very easy to buy and very efficient, also the mana regen helps a lot for int heroes, you can easily finish them at about 12 minutes and then start building forces/glimmer while being quite strong for the early game

                          TNL.Jolly_Hotdog

                            Tango is always better for sustain

                            Husky

                              Too expensive for supports. Mostly bought by offlaners like bat, and np. Although I think its underrated for mirana offlane cuz synergizes with her leap.

                              lm ao

                                it's meant to be a item for cores but ever since the changes to it, its now complete utter garbage

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