@BogiDotO:
Are you retarded? How is it a bad example. It clearly shows that the algorithm can easily make mistakes. Im not even remotely trying hard, if the toplist which you should to everyone itself is flawed how should the system itself be good then? ;)
Another example is fameGG, hes not a bad player, but you cannot tell me hes better than 98% progamers. The algorithm is clearly flawed and is therefore not reliable at all.
And thx, gonna accept and see how ur poor monkeybrain works, might be an interesting experiment! maybe we can finally see whats going on in a tards brain.
Also Mathismight should join navi right? :'D
Still unreliable and not accurate at all. Its still nice that someone tries to find an algorithm for a rating, you should just go and polish it alot, since it clearly has aLOT of flaws.
It predicts every pro being a pro with 100% accuracy. Pubstars can play better in pubs than even best pros. Team cohesion, strategies and overall teamplay is way more important than simply how someone fares in pub games. Those are 2 different worlds.
I still believe EGM should be a liiiiiittle bit higher than 1024. You will obviously be able to predict every pro as a "pro" in your bracket system since your "pro" bracket is way too broad.
if you go through EGM match data, there isn't anything impressive to be found. Go look yourself. Compared to other pros, his pub performance is mediocre or he stacked with bad players.
just look at percentile . you give too much meaning to the rating number when it is just a means to an end of determining rankings (percentile). 10 rating points mean something way different at 2000 than at 1000. thats the point
moved backwards in the que twice now haha. given it's only taking the past 20 games I didn't think it would take all that long to calculate, at least compared to the first time it was put up if it was doing your whole profile.
lol Darkness. That would serve you right, unfortunately it is not correct. The queue appears to be ordered by steam_id, thus those with older accounts are getting served first.
Pretty sure the new system is even worse. I thought my ~1250ish in the old one was far too high, on the new one i am apparently 1775.
lol
I think I'm mostly playing decent players, but 1775? lol
Must be because I solo queue and I played well in 16 of my last 17 matches, the 3 before that were shit too though..so IDK. Looks like the new system is really anti-stack
@sano, better player =/= higher rating. That much is clear. Stacking, unbalanced matches (maybe facing and getting weaker allies/opponents due to queuing at bad times) and maybe just not playing as well as he can may have led to a lower rating. Still worth noting that anything over 1000 is really good. Like I said yesterday, in DBR which had the entire player base, you had wood tier at ~1000, diamond at ~2000 (top 1%) and the best at like ~2700 or something. So for DSR, which only has people that have put their ID in the queue, a rating of 1000 is still pretty damn high..
Relax guys, knowing your number now or in a day isn't going to change anything. Just check it again tomorrow. Yes the number is going up, but its still working.
Funny though, I put 3 accounts (this smurf, and 2 mains that I rotate between) in the queue at the same time, and only one of the accounts has gone through.
So I guess my no-stack Invoker smurf is better than 80% of [A] certain team at a convincing 1819. Not bad, not bad.
http://mydotaskill.com/index.php?id=126943640
@BogiDotO:
Are you retarded? How is it a bad example. It clearly shows that the algorithm can easily make mistakes. Im not even remotely trying hard, if the toplist which you should to everyone itself is flawed how should the system itself be good then? ;)
Another example is fameGG, hes not a bad player, but you cannot tell me hes better than 98% progamers. The algorithm is clearly flawed and is therefore not reliable at all.
And thx, gonna accept and see how ur poor monkeybrain works, might be an interesting experiment! maybe we can finally see whats going on in a tards brain.
Also Mathismight should join navi right? :'D
Still unreliable and not accurate at all. Its still nice that someone tries to find an algorithm for a rating, you should just go and polish it alot, since it clearly has aLOT of flaws.
It predicts every pro being a pro with 100% accuracy. Pubstars can play better in pubs than even best pros. Team cohesion, strategies and overall teamplay is way more important than simply how someone fares in pub games. Those are 2 different worlds.
pls give me mine thx
i expect jadeite
Babys on Fire
-> 606.2
(http://mydotaskill.com/index.php?id=147209944)
can u check mine pls
I still believe EGM should be a liiiiiittle bit higher than 1024. You will obviously be able to predict every pro as a "pro" in your bracket system since your "pro" bracket is way too broad.
>Benao doto best doto
1796
@-_- it's as broad as pro-pub skill levels
if you go through EGM match data, there isn't anything impressive to be found. Go look yourself. Compared to other pros, his pub performance is mediocre or he stacked with bad players.
Rating is not very important at the top of the bell curve. you move a couple rankings up and you have changed a large amount of rating.
http://www.dotallyrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ratings.png
same thing happened with dotabuff's rating system.
see the top of the bell curve. if you are in the top 1% of players you are still there whether your rating is 1500 or 2000.
with pros ranking means more than rating
dotabuff system had top 1% of players between 1950 rating and 3000 rating.
ur talking about very small difference in skill between players that are very very good being represented by a large diff in rating number.
here ranking is more informative than rating
If you say so mister.
just look at percentile . you give too much meaning to the rating number when it is just a means to an end of determining rankings (percentile). 10 rating points mean something way different at 2000 than at 1000. thats the point
Hey can you check mine?
the queue keeps resetting. check mine manually please
Hi i'm trying to use the site, after i reach the que i get a massage to wait 1/2 hour to a hour, but then i'm just back in the que again
^
Check back in 30 minutes, your rating will be there.
You don't have to keep your browser open.
can you check mine
http://mydotaskill.com/index.php?id=dotabuff.com%2Fplayers%2F107980713
http://mydotaskill.com/index.php?id=dotabuff.com%2Fplayers%2F67721705
both go back into que, still have no ratting. maybe its because I havn't played a game in the last week?
horrible....
http://dotabuff.com/players/30944611 This guy 1600+ more than Akke and EGM. -.- lel
moved backwards in the que twice now haha. given it's only taking the past 20 games I didn't think it would take all that long to calculate, at least compared to the first time it was put up if it was doing your whole profile.
Can you explain why is this guy http://dotabuff.com/players/72903353 the top?
http://dotabuff.com/players/88592346
thanks
check mine for me thanks, moving backwards in queue
the queue is going backward =( ... Endless waiting ya ~
Emerald 944
I guess since I only really stack with one guy frequently I'm destined to remain at the most average of the average levels. Heh.
shit is garbage
can you check mine
http://dotabuff.com/players/90586993
Can u check mine pls ?
http://dotabuff.com/players/103358200
from 200 to now 5k, LOL ... later will be 10k? =____=
check mine plz
expect some bronze shit
can you check mine please
http://dotabuff.com/players/3462408
why the f im moving up in q?
does it get reset everytime i press go?
lol Darkness. That would serve you right, unfortunately it is not correct. The queue appears to be ordered by steam_id, thus those with older accounts are getting served first.
Pretty sure the new system is even worse. I thought my ~1250ish in the old one was far too high, on the new one i am apparently 1775.
lol
I think I'm mostly playing decent players, but 1775? lol
Must be because I solo queue and I played well in 16 of my last 17 matches, the 3 before that were shit too though..so IDK. Looks like the new system is really anti-stack
I got 1440ish and a friend of mine who plays better than me got less than 1100
my queue count is up to 4000
@sano, better player =/= higher rating. That much is clear. Stacking, unbalanced matches (maybe facing and getting weaker allies/opponents due to queuing at bad times) and maybe just not playing as well as he can may have led to a lower rating. Still worth noting that anything over 1000 is really good. Like I said yesterday, in DBR which had the entire player base, you had wood tier at ~1000, diamond at ~2000 (top 1%) and the best at like ~2700 or something. So for DSR, which only has people that have put their ID in the queue, a rating of 1000 is still pretty damn high..
I think you are in the VH bracket if you get 700-900 DSR
High is around 400
Queue is going backwards, any chance you could calculate mine for me?
http://dotabuff.com/players/38413239
Why only last 20 games? I feel that is really low, it should look at like 50-100 games. Please refine, thanks alot.
Lol does the queue position actually mean anything? It just seems like random numbers to me :P
The Queue is going up and up all the time, can u please calculate mine
http://dotabuff.com/players/112619575
Check my rating if you dont mind. I was around 500 in queue earlier and resubmited to a 900 waiting list ;(
Relax guys, knowing your number now or in a day isn't going to change anything. Just check it again tomorrow. Yes the number is going up, but its still working.
Funny though, I put 3 accounts (this smurf, and 2 mains that I rotate between) in the queue at the same time, and only one of the accounts has gone through.
shit i suck now.... even though 90% of my games are on first page
i shouldnt stack with sucky players it seems
went from 921 to 1674. yay, thank god its only "fresh" matches haha
http://mydotaskill.com/index.php?id=130682538
Well, I've been waiting all night for this and it's still not ready :(
mine went from 980 to 101 xD wtf