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General Discussiondo you think aghs mirana is good and will get nerfed?

do you think aghs mirana is good and will get nerfed? in General Discussion
Dire Wolf

    It seems pretty op. I haven't played against it yet but two miranas on my team have gone mid and gotten aghs and racked up tons of kills.

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2329178065
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2334351515

    If you leap onto someone alone you basically pop two star falls and that single target gets hit by both of the second stars for 75% dmg, a total of 1050 dmg. It's pretty retarded. That's like sitting in a full lvl 2 skywrath ult or like ogre proc'ing a quadrouple cast fireblast on you if that were possible.

    NIKKJ

      No, wont get nerfed. Its pretty OK i guess. Iv played it myself and sure it helps a lot with the farming and in teamclashes, but I also played with miranas who sipped aghs and dominated as well.

      It was a good addition.

      Look more into the lvl 10-12 WK;s with armlet + the minus armor thing (dont remember the name, 300g item you use for stygian) that crits for 1300ish instead allt the time.

      Murranji

        It's gone to core item status immediately. Like 6 days after the patch has been introduced it's like her 4th most built item. Like it's apparently more core to her than Aghs is Tiny.

        Itoro

          its not a good item for pos 1 mirana.

          if pos 2 mirana yes.

          agh + hex + linken + diffusal + bkb + boot

          Your Wife's Boyfriend

            It is good but unfortunately it is going to get nerfed to a single unit starfall, because nobody likes mirana (and 70 other heroes) in the meta for some reason.

            Pale Mannie

              Maybe to 9 secs trigger idk

              Dire Wolf

                how's it not good for position 1 mirana? It clears waves and heroes. Just lacks tower dmg but you can build that separately.

                Riguma Borusu

                  Because it does not scale your damage unlike items like manta, butterfly, or heck even desolator.

                  Your Wife's Boyfriend

                    yea dude but here s the deal min 25 - offlane mirana - 40 cs, builds first item aghs, min 30 - 200 cs, builds 1 major item, min 35 - 350 cs, builds another major item, min 45 - 600 cs - 6 slotts

                    now carry no aghs mirana - min 10 - 70 cs, min 20 - 160 cs - builds 1 major item, min 30 - 250 cs, min 35 - 300 cs, builds another major item, min 45, 400 cs - 3 slots. And that is if your farm goes really, really well

                    Do you even consider the fact that aghs gives you more farming potential then midas and radiance combined, while not being extremely useless because it also gives you nice stats for its cost? Also the nuke dmg in teamfights is pretty insane tbh. I even get >10 cs/min with 3-4th position mirana in the end of the game with first item aghs while having the highest hero dmg in the team. There is absolutely no reason not to go aghs unless you want to finish the game REALLY quick and even then there are some reasons to build it.

                    Example:
                    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2324057786
                    Yea, I lost this game ~4.4-4.6k mmr I don't remember, whatever, the thing is that a 3rd pos mirana with first item aghs has highest cs, highest kill part and the highest hero dmg in the end of the game (actually the hd equals the carry and the mid role hero dmg combined) I am not trying to say how great I am but how good aghs mirana actually is.

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                    Dire Wolf

                      That's what I was saying, I thought it'd be core just cus of farming speed even on pos 1 mirana, kinda like how aghs is core on shadowfiend or viper (doesn't help viper farm obviously).

                      Kryptnyt

                        Building rightclick items on her doesn't seem right when you are going scepter. It would be more optimal to grab veil/dagon/eblade.

                        Pale Mannie

                          MAGIC MIRANA IS A THING NOW

                          unilt lategame hits you with bkb, AM and huskar

                          Kryptnyt

                            or early game hits you with... blademail

                            Metallicize

                              until slark pounces on you and you still cant do shit

                              yung griphook

                                Hope it doesnt get nerfed. I dont see how it would, considering it doesn't make the hero OP.

                                The only thing it really does is allow her to farm much faster, making her a possible carry / mid again. The stats she gets from aghs is also nice, but you could say that about any hero. I think she's right where she needs to be.

                                Aghs is her 4th most built item because the patch just came out and people are experimenting

                                TripleSteal-

                                  this item made mirana a legit core, but its not good enough to make her op (imo), and i dont see enough reasoning for a nerf so far.

                                  Sir

                                    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2324015993

                                    Epic potm game! (9k mmr potm) :P

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                                    Born

                                      Tis good. Nice snowball item. And with that bloodthorn thingy you do ridiculous amounts of single target dmg.

                                      lm ao

                                        Man mir is my favorite hero and a comfort pick as well but non right-click builds really blow. Can I still shift into manta+diffu after aghs?