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Arc Doge Anticipation? in General Discussion
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    Do you think he'll fit right in the current meta? what are your thoughts about the doge?

    Get ready for hugs!

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    [Lk].Zano

      Fuck him.

      BenaoLifedancer

        that hero is so gay... will get along real well with techies, blue dragon, lesh, seeker and shit

        Vaikiss`742.

          idk whats it

          but probably will be imba just like any other w3 ported hero

          Jade

            >Do you think he'll fit right in the current meta?
            Don't think he'll be added in dota till 6.86 or some later patch

            Mokujin

              He puts mines like techies
              and has a temporary clone (like mappo) that can use items like syllabae (can use double midas, necro, hex etc.)

              Thansk icefrayd

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              Mokujin

                Arc Warden's skills suggest that his mother was ebola and dad was cancer and that they had a child but the parents were actually a brother and a sister

                Arc Warden's leaked portrait

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                  Last picking is 4 pussies

                    If this is released before Pit Lord I will be so disappointed.

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                      matrice

                        Considering this

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zetman

                        Zet could only get imba, since human is literraly the weakest life form. So even as a gnoll, he had to stand over the imbalance, since zetman is imbalanced :p

                        Mekarazium
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                          Born

                            Yes yes yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
                            *laughs maniacally*

                            Last picking is 4 pussies

                              Doesn't anyone remember the sky is falling talk that proceeded Oracle as well?

                              nami

                                but oracle was a support

                                this dude is a high skill cap carry type hero

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                                  [Lk].Zano

                                    ^^^Oracle has a skill set and stats that basically allure people into playing him wrong. Plus, his skills could (and, judging by his winrate when first introduced, did) completely fuck his own teammates when not applied correctly.

                                    Arc Warden, unlike Oracle, Winter Wyvern and Pit Lord has NO skill to "oops-didn't-mean-to-screw-you-up-friend". And is also a kind of combination between Terrorblade and Techies with double the items for half the gold and double the cancer potential.

                                    He's still not fool proof though, and has an arguably high skill cap to unlock his full potential.

                                    But still, once again, fuck him twice over.

                                    strategiccheese

                                      So out of curiosity where is all this coming from?

                                      casual gamer

                                        oracle was actually pretty op before they changed his ult

                                        now he s just fuckign BORING

                                        matrice

                                          Yeah, right now, it's the target of oracle ultimate who is fucking OP :p

                                          nami

                                            Oracle's ulti at the moment has almost no difference whatsoever from a Shallow Grave lol.

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                                              I never understood this hero. I played WC3 dota for very very little in 2010-2011 i think. Is this a carry? Mid? Supp?
                                              he is basically a agi hero with 15 starting agi but a fuckn 24 str and 24 int, + 1.9 str growth and 2.1 int growth

                                              And i remember he was getting killsa around the map , he has some sort of mines.
                                              + his Ulti is a fucnkn bullshit, double everything, hex,necro,manta,abbysal etc

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                                              Reese

                                                Oracle's ulti applies a constant strong dispel which is huge, you can't be disabled and you are immortal for the duration
                                                I prefer the old ult with 20 sec cd and invisibility tho

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                                                  What the actually fuck is this shit:

                                                  Magnetic Field: Distorts space, generating a circular field that grants 100% evasion and bonus attack speed to allied heroes and buildings within. The field has a radius of 275 units.

                                                  And this is his trap

                                                  Spark Wraith
                                                  Ability Affects Damage
                                                  Target Point Enemies Magical
                                                  Summons a Spark Wraith that takes 3 seconds to fully materialize. Haunts the targeted area until an enemy comes within its range and then fuses itself into them dealing magical damage.
                                                  Cast Time: 0.3+0
                                                  Cast Range: 2000
                                                  Search Radius: 375
                                                  Activation Delay: 3
                                                  Damage: 150/200/250/300
                                                  Wraith Duration: 50
                                                  Cooldown 4 Mana 50

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                                                    Definition of BULLSHIT:

                                                    Tempest Double

                                                    Ability Affects
                                                    No Target Self
                                                    By vibrating at extreme speeds, Arc Warden is able to create a perfect electrical incarnation of himself for 20 seconds, at the cost of his current health and mana. This incarnation can use any spells or items he has, and spawns with his health and mana after the cast.
                                                    Cast Time: 0.3+0.51
                                                    Current Health and Mana as Cost: 30%/15%/0%
                                                    Number of Doubles: 1
                                                    Duration: 20

                                                    Mokujin

                                                      gud hiro

                                                      Mokujin

                                                        "Do you think he'll fit right in the current meta?"
                                                        he'll fit the meta and your mom too :crazy:

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                                                          Midas is fucking core on this hero, there is no reason to not get it.
                                                          12 Slotted at 30 minutes, gg icefraud

                                                          Bobbyx Qrwa Mac

                                                            The rat master has arrived

                                                            Bobbyx Qrwa Mac

                                                              2 necros 2 mantas 2 dagons 2 etherals ez kappa

                                                              Vaikiss`742.

                                                                like all those items items are free lmao

                                                                does he have escape mechanism ? cuz if not have fun playing against all the spiritbreaks and all other cancer of this meta

                                                                Born

                                                                  ^you get midas and you farm your eyes out. Basically necro 3 travels by 15 minutes.
                                                                  Only save he has is his miss field and the slow from 1st spell, but he is gankable, yes.

                                                                  And im gonna play the shit out of this hero.

                                                                  nami

                                                                    dats like saying 6.83 troll or sniper had no escape mechanism and was thus trash hero

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                                                                    matrice

                                                                      refresher into double rapier, send 2 clone, easy base/rampage with no rapier drop ^^

                                                                      Also, between bottle (eventually arcane, don't know if we really need them) you can literraly make yourself ungankable with a wall of remnant at 2k range, protecting you.
                                                                      Anyway, first nerf he will receive "midas no longer activable by clone"

                                                                      Born

                                                                        ^doubt it. people expected that for the longest time in dota1, years after it didnt get removed.
                                                                        and travels are kinda core on the hero. since you will rat a ton with necro/manta at no cost at all.

                                                                        [Lk].Zano

                                                                          @xan

                                                                          Well, it also took 5 patches before Terrorblade got nerfed from his 6.75 version (The OP one we got when he was first introduced in dota2).

                                                                          Winter Wyvern too, after being created, actually got more and more buffs before Icefrog realized he actually had to nerf her when she was ported into dota2.

                                                                          Oracle was the only one to receive a minor nerf when he was in dota1 in ONE patch and then he was virtually unchanged until last patch.

                                                                          Needless to say, Icefrog doesn't care too much about dota1 anymore.

                                                                          Born

                                                                            yes i know that, but there was a period where d1 was still alive and kicking, and Zet was in the game. he didnt get reworked regardless.

                                                                            proud dolbaebsk citizen

                                                                              ww is the most broken hero in the world

                                                                              Metallicize

                                                                                if this hero has same stats as tb then nothing will change

                                                                                Last picking is 4 pussies

                                                                                  Your all worrying for nothing Pitlord will be here first !

                                                                                  [Lk].Zano

                                                                                    Well, I guess we just have to wait and see. I just noticed the pattern of broken heroes only getting nerfed once they were ported to dota2, using data gathered from that point onwards.

                                                                                    strategiccheese

                                                                                      So do we have any reason to suspect are warden is next? Or even if another hero is coming so soon?i mean it's only been a few months since WW (not having any past expirence on how often this stuff happens of course)

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                                                                                        @top dog

                                                                                        This hero not about stats, mose of the time you'll push their base with 5 illu + 4 necro 3 + maybe Deso debuff + maybe AC debuff without your main hero there.

                                                                                        But i saw that icefrog actually nerfs heroes as they get ported in dota 2 ( well not immediately but after a while, look at WW, TB, etc) to make them competitive viable.